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#149619 - 05/26/05 04:30 PM Three Section Staff
Talimas Offline
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Registered: 02/03/05
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I have used a three sectional staff for about a year and a half now, self teaching and playing. I am rather confident in certain basic moves that I believe effective for combat both from visualizing and some 3 sectional vs bo sparring. Unfortunately I have been unable to find a traditional kata/form for this weapon. Our style does not use this weapon, therefore making it hard to physically ask someone to teach me a kata/form for this weapon. As much as I hate to learn a kata/form from a video I see it as my only option until I have free time to travel some distance to a dojo that does teach these types of wepaons. Does anyone know of a good instrucional video for a three sectional staff kata/form?

Thank you,
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#149620 - 05/26/05 04:32 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: Talimas]
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Registered: 03/16/05
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I don't know of any videos unfortunately. I do know that my style of Wahlum Tamtui Northern Praying Mantis Kung-Fu has at LEAST one 3-section staff form and a 3-section staff verses Spear form...dunno if that helps at all.

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#149621 - 05/26/05 04:38 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: Talimas]
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Any leads are great. I appreciate anything that narrows a search engine closer to my goal
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#149622 - 05/27/05 06:18 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: Talimas]
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I really understand your problem. That was me a few years ago trying to learn the whipchain from a video.

Three section staff seems to be mostly a chinese weapon. (All stories I've heard trace it back to shaolin monks). My suggestion, therefore, is to look into Kung Fu styles. I've seen plenty of Modern Wushu forms for it on video. (These will look GREAT when performed, although you may find some challenging athletic movements). Praying Mantis styles have a pretty combat oriented approach. I've also seen an article on Hung Gar's three section staff, and I think it's pretty combat oriented as well.

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#149623 - 05/28/05 07:21 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: 18lohans]
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Well I do Lau Gar Kung Fu and im not sure if the 3 sectioned staff is in this style but we have one on our wall at the club so it could be. I will have to find out on that one. Just incase though we also teach Chen Style Tai Chi, Torite Jutsu, so it may also be in one of them styles if you look around. As I say I dont know much on this but it could help with your searches.

thanx
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#149624 - 05/28/05 09:27 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: Talimas]
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Hung Gar has extensive three sectional staff. It is also not fancy any the applications are right there in your face. Some Three sectional staff Shaolin forms are really amazing, some build different skills. There are some in which you roll around, sweep, jump, etc. (more of a wide area use of it). While southern styles have more down to earth, short foot work, more emphasis on blocking, trapping etc. (sparing with it). I guess just see if you can find some good books/videos on it.
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#149625 - 06/02/05 01:44 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: BaguaMonk]
Talimas Offline
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Thanks for the help, I have tried to stay away from the Wushu forms as they are a little flashy for my tastes. The Shaolin Kung Fu and Hung Gar forms seem extremely interesting. Unfortunately I have had trouble finding any Shaolin videos that have seemed of a quality to learn from. The dilema I have run into frequently is being from a Japenese linear style, I have tended to create katas/forms that are very linear in appearance themselves. This is probably the biggest reason why I am searching for a traditional form, the forms I have created sufice more then enough for any competition, I am looking at unlocking more usefulness out of the weapon by looking from someone else's eyes.

Again thank you all for your help.
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#149626 - 06/02/05 02:01 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: Talimas]
cks_cropper Offline
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Registered: 03/04/05
Posts: 63
May be of some interest to you, but I was just browsing the net earlier today and came accross a small clip of a 3 sectioned staff. Its only 1.6mb, if you want it just let me know your e-mail address and ill send it to you.

thanx
CKS

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#149627 - 06/04/05 10:04 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: cks_cropper]
Talimas Offline
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Registered: 02/03/05
Posts: 131
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I ended up ordering http://www.martialartsmart.net/vidthreessta.html, I will let everyone know if it is any good after I receive it.

Please note to anyone else interested in this weapon, I am not learning the weapon from a video I am hoping to learn a traditional chinese form from it, due to a desire for a more traditional form. This is an extremely difficult weapon to learn on your own, I advise to anyone that is able to find a teacher for this weapon to do that instead.
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#149628 - 06/14/05 01:38 PM Re: Three Section Staff [Re: Talimas]
Talimas Offline
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Registered: 02/03/05
Posts: 131
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Ok, I received my video. Although I do not believe I will use this entire form as our 12 x 12 rings do not allow for this much movement. It is an interesting video. The first couple of times I watched this video was without sound (didn't remember I had it disabled, just figured the video didn't have any sound.) About the third time I watched it I had the sound turned on, which makes little difference, the commentator speaks much slower then the demonstrator moves.

My major dislike about this video is if you are trying to understand hand positioning and learn movements from it, even frame by fram you can seldomly see exactly what is going on without studying it. Their so called slow motion is about real speed. The video contains a three sectional vs bo staff demonstration also broken into chunks so it can be learned by viewers. Very impressive set, quite entertaining to watch.

In my opinion it was worth the money, it does help a few moves make more sense, also giving me stupid ideas of trying others that will probably hurt me.
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