FightingArts Estore
Pressure Points
From a medical professional, straight facts on where and how to hit that can save your life.
Stretching
Limber or not, anyone can add height and speed to their kicks with this method.
Calligraphy
For yourself or as a gift, calligraphy is special, unique and lasting.
Karate Uniforms
Look your best. Max snap. low cost & superior crafted: “Peak Performance Gold” 16 oz uniforms.

MOTOBU
Classic book translation. Hard to find. Not in stores.
Who's Online
0 registered (), 40 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
ksusanc, kellypnik123, leyinn, Ron_Cooley, businns
22902 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Dobbersky 10
trevek 6
cxt 5
JKogas 5
futsaowingchun 2
July
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31
New Topics
centerline concepts
by futsaowingchun
07/14/14 10:49 PM
language of syllabus
by trevek
07/11/14 03:36 PM
ITF TaeKwonDo or Shotokan Karate????
by Dobbersky
07/10/14 07:14 AM
10 San Sik drills-Wing Chun's foundation
by futsaowingchun
06/30/14 11:20 AM
"Ip Man" and "Ip Man 2" the movies.
by TaekwonDoFan
06/30/14 11:02 AM
Iaido movements speed
by TooNice
04/14/14 01:47 PM
Anderson Silva - Leg Break
by Dobbersky
12/30/13 08:32 AM
The Karate punch
by Matakiant
10/30/13 07:41 AM
Where Are They Now?
by Dobbersky
05/30/13 08:08 AM
Gi or no Gi Grappling?
by Prizewriter
04/16/12 02:48 PM
Recent Posts
ITF TaeKwonDo or Shotokan Karate????
by Dobbersky
07/18/14 06:17 AM
centerline concepts
by Dobbersky
07/18/14 06:14 AM
language of syllabus
by trevek
07/14/14 04:50 PM
Gi or no Gi Grappling?
by Dobbersky
07/10/14 07:38 AM
MMA - A passing Fad
by Dobbersky
07/10/14 07:35 AM
Anderson Silva - Leg Break
by Dobbersky
07/09/14 06:13 AM
Throwing
by JKogas
07/03/14 07:40 PM
10 San Sik drills-Wing Chun's foundation
by futsaowingchun
06/30/14 11:20 AM
"Ip Man" and "Ip Man 2" the movies.
by TaekwonDoFan
06/30/14 11:02 AM
Forget all that health stuff
by TaekwonDoFan
06/29/14 03:18 AM
Forum Stats
22902 Members
36 Forums
35563 Topics
432446 Posts

Max Online: 424 @ 09/24/13 10:38 PM
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#147060 - 05/20/05 05:44 PM shifting stances
GojuRyuboy13 Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 535
Loc: U.S. of A.
Yalp, well specifically when doing kata do you prefer to sort of drag your feet or slide them across the ground when changing stances, or picking them up?
I tend pick pick mine up whethor a sweep or stomp is intended or not. I remember at a tournament one time, I was doing kata and when I slid my foot I nearly fell over from the sticky gym floor. Either way I like to pick my feet up so that when I land I land usually (I hope) in the correct form. I see a lot in my dojo of people sliding their feet, on certain movments it's necessary/prefered but yup.
What's your thoughts?
_________________________
"A lawyer with his briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns." Aw, The GodFather

Top
#147061 - 05/21/05 01:54 PM Re: shifting stances [Re: GojuRyuboy13]
shotokan Offline
Newbie

Registered: 05/21/05
Posts: 13
I think different styles prefer a slightly different approach, for competition purposes at least. I know my style (shotokan) has accepted slight changes to the katas implentation since I first learnt some of them, but in my experience I think it is best to complete and execute each stance in its own right - so definately no "feet sliding". If you imagine that your kata is against opponents I think that you will see the benefit that that would make...

For a shotokan KUGB competition I would think that someone with "sliding feet" was not strong in their technique - in a similar way as a novice would "dance" through a kata, but then like I said, different styles call for different approaches.

Hope I understood your question!

Steven

Top
#147062 - 05/22/05 05:30 AM Re: shifting stances [Re: shotokan]
shoshinkan Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 2662
Loc: UK
for the vast ammount of kata 'step', however sliding motion is extremly important in karate and appears in several parts of kata.

so the awnser IMO is both sliding and stepping have their uses!

Top
#147063 - 05/22/05 09:30 AM Re: shifting stances [Re: shoshinkan]
kenposan Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 08/23/01
Posts: 633
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Quote:

for the vast ammount of kata 'step', however sliding motion is extremly important in karate and appears in several parts of kata.

so the awnser IMO is both sliding and stepping have their uses!




I agree with the above. Some styles slide and some step. Just depends on where you come from. Both have value.
_________________________
The angry man will defeat himself in battle, as well as in life. -Samurai maxim

Top
#147064 - 05/22/05 03:51 PM Re: shifting stances [Re: GojuRyuboy13]
nenipp Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/13/04
Posts: 1205
I slide as in ashi-sabaki to enhance tai-sabaki, but I don't drag my feet as in driving with the parking-brakes on

Top
#147065 - 05/22/05 04:02 PM Re: shifting stances [Re: nenipp]
shoshinkan Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 2662
Loc: UK
there are both slide and step movements in matsubayashi shorin ryu kata.

Obviously differnet mechanics at work in each case, dependant on what you are trying to do.

Top
#147066 - 05/23/05 01:48 AM Re: shifting stances [Re: GojuRyuboy13]
hedkikr Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 2827
Loc: Southern California, USA
Sliding doesn't mean your feet must always touch the ground. It's always preferable to raise your feet only as much as is needed because this will reduce your up-&-down movement. You want all your momentum going forward (or any other direction) to enhance power.

Have you ever watched an Olympic hurdler compared to an average person jumping over hurdles? The hurdler's head remains on the same plane whether running or clearing the hurdle. The average person's head goes up-&-down. An exagerated but valid analogy.

Top
#147067 - 05/23/05 02:00 AM Re: shifting stances [Re: hedkikr]
SANCHIN31 Offline
Former Moderator

Registered: 12/26/04
Posts: 3783
Loc: Arkansas, U.S.
That's a very good analogy butterfly. I think stepping and sliding(not dragging) have their place and applications.Consider the cross step as trapping a leg,stomp,etc. hawa!!
_________________________
Skinny,Bald,and Handsome! Fightingarts Warrior of the year

Top
#147068 - 05/26/05 06:22 AM Re: shifting stances [Re: SANCHIN31]
Ives Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 691
Loc: the Netherlands
I once heard that in styles using a Hakama, shifting between stances, shouldn't be revealed. So the rest of your body shouldn't telegraph your intentions.
Thinking of this Hakama, you would be almost everytime sliding, asfor not to move the Hakama a lot.

I try to slide just half a centimeter above the floor. And step when needed.
It depends on the kata or move you are performing.

(I must say that I don't wear a Hakama, but I only heard of this. Maybe someone could confirm?)

Paul
_________________________
Ives

Top
#147069 - 05/26/05 02:14 PM Re: shifting stances [Re: Ives]
Bushi_no_ki Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/03/05
Posts: 1667
Loc: POM, Monterey CA
In AKK, when moving a foot, it is preferable that, if the foot does not remain in contact with the ground it stays close to it. The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, so when able, keeping the foot close to the ground is the best option, as this also helps with stability.

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


Moderator:  Ames, Cord, MattJ, Reiki, Ronin1966 




Action Ads
1.5 Million Plus Page Views
Monthly
Only $89
Details

Ryukyu Art
Artifacts from the Ryukyu Kingdom missing since WWII. Visit www.ShisaLion.Org to view pictures

Best Stun Guns
Self Defense Products-stun guns, pepper spray, tasers and more

Surveillance 4U
Complete surveillance systems for covert operations or secure installation security

Asylum Images
Book presents photo tour of the Trans-Allegany Lunatic Asylum. A must if you're going to take a ghost tour!

 



Unbreakable Unbrella

krav maga