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#145195 - 05/17/05 11:38 AM Drunken Styles
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Does anyone know of an actual drunken style of martial arts?

I have tried finding one but am not able to via the internet.
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#145196 - 05/17/05 11:41 AM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: warriormonk]
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There's a new Chinese MA section which is cool...
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=38

you may get more answers there.
take care.

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#145197 - 05/17/05 12:40 PM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: warriormonk]
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There are the eight drunken immortals, each immortal has something special that separates their ability from another. One has a strong leg, another holds a pot in his arms, another has strong wrists, etc.

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#145198 - 05/18/05 12:28 PM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: coxne]
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Outside of great drunken scenes in movies, I don't believe there was a formal drunken style in the older Chinese Arts.
Various systems did have forms with drunken movement in them, or perhaps one drunken form.

The basic context was the use of drunken, staggering motion to move unpredictibality on an opponent. Sometimes the hand position as if two fingers were holding a cup would be a striking tool too.

As I understand it drunken forms were very advanced studies in the arts, and you would have had to undergo considerable conditioning and training before attempting them.

Modern Wu-Shu competition does have several 'schools' of extreme drunken gymnastic movement. They do head springs, extreme full body falls, etc, and of course take a very hard toll on the body as one ages.

Good luck in your search,
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#145199 - 05/18/05 02:51 PM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: Victor Smith]
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In my style, we practice the 8 immortals, as well as drunken weapons, as victor said, they are reserved for advanced students. (haven't gotten that far yet, but have watched the advanced students do the forms)

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#145200 - 05/19/05 09:30 AM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: coxne]
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so drunken styles really have forms

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#145201 - 05/19/05 09:46 AM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: Xavier]
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Quote:

so drunken styles really have forms




No, as Victor said, there are drunken forms of styles, but no drunken styles.
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#145202 - 05/19/05 10:20 AM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: JoelM]
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anybody know any good drunken fights from movies? i know there's the jackie chan one but i saw a clip of him fighting and compared to the drunken style i've seen before it isn't the same. there's a really good scene in fist of the red dragon, drunken vs. eagle's claw. i don't know how close to the real drunken style it really is, but it's choreographed really well IMO and fun to watch.

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#145203 - 05/20/05 03:49 AM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: coxne]
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Quote:

There are the eight drunken immortals, each immortal has something special that separates their ability from another. One has a strong leg, another holds a pot in his arms, another has strong wrists, etc.





There are 8 immortals, maybe only one or two were members of AA (Alcoholic Anonymous)

One is a woman, supposedly pretty but pretty deadly, the rest either has a crippled leg, an ugly face, a perpetual grin or a huge belly. These are all legends; no one has actually seen them and drew portraits. Much like Santa Claus or Robin Hood and his Merry Men. These 'immortals' were roped in or their names borrowed to name some forms by the old chinese masters, because it always sounded better when a newly invented form has some connection to legendary figures -- like the '18 kicks of One-Legged Li' or the '7 Slaps of Her Sien Gu' (the single female immortal) or something.

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#145204 - 05/20/05 12:17 PM Re: Drunken Styles [Re: reallycoolkid]
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One of the most fun movies was an old Shaw Brothers that was renamed "Heroes of the East". It was a partial comedy, a Chinese man married a Japanese bride (say in the 30's). They both had martial traditions and her extreme Japanese point of view made it difficult for them to get along. She ran home, and a letter a friend sent to her in his name caused her relatives to send a Japanese Martial Arts delegation to 'meet' with him.

Differences of understanding, led him to be challenged by the entire group. His friends to prepare him for one of his fights, attacked a 'drunken' master, and they watched his responses, learning the drunken system.

The movie is great, and the drunken seen too.

Jackie Chan's also made many drunken movies, he has good technique for them.

Then there were an entire chain of Shaw movies on drunken themes.

But movies are just entertainment, not training.

Drunken with its extreme falls is very difficult to attempt.

I'd rank Drunken Forms right up there with Monkey Style kung fu, not for the faint of heart.
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