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#144708 - 05/16/05 01:27 PM *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy
Donte Offline
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im new to martial arts and am a white gold belt in tia kwon dow and i also want t learn how to use and controle ki and i really need help and i dont know what meditations to sart of with or anything plz help!
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#144709 - 05/16/05 04:39 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Donte]
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I guess try to meditate on your breathe. Dont' force to feel your chi, it will come naturally without effort. Don't analyze what sensations you get, but simply be aware of them. Don't overexaggerate them either, be humble, but know if what you feel is true or not. Lay down in corpse pose (on bed, back down, palms up, legs spread apart, very relaxed), it works well. That's some basics, good luck!
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#144710 - 05/16/05 06:02 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Tsurugi_Oni]
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I aggree with Tsurugi. Lying on my back Is how I began and funny thing happened. I first started off just relaxing and breathing palms open eyes closed. When I felt I was completely relaxed I started to Imagine I was floating on water. As though I can feel the waves pushing on my body.
I did this for one week straight just before going to bed.
Then on a Sunday night I actaully felt those waves on my back and they would swell when I inhaled and flatten when I exhaled. Over time the waves build and build and all the while my body was loosing energy. My legs went num with pain, my arm would tingle were my skin touched the sheets.
My head felt heavy and any small effort to move was invain. Although I could move if I really, really, tried. Now on that sunday night the waves built so much that I could feel a small amount of pressure on my back, I bagan laughing with fear and excitement as my torso began to rise.
Then I stopped and didnt go any futher out of fear of the unknown.


Energy Arts can take you so far with breathing and concentration, visualization and practice. But when you reach that breaking point when you know something will happen if you keep going, fear will become your only shackle holding you down. Untill you find the courage to unlock those shackles all that training will be for not.


Edited by DBZInspired (05/16/05 06:06 PM)

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#144711 - 05/16/05 08:33 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: DBZInspired]
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HAH, that practically describes my first experience, except i had pain all over my body, and i even was partially paralyzed like you. But Ya.. i had NO GUIDANCE at all when i did energy stuff, so i was venturing into the unknown. Now let me tell you, i have an iron will, i do not get scared easily at all. Scary movies, comon? Haunted house? please. But some of the sensations i got when during chi works scared the hell out of me. I mean scared me shitless, it was nothing that's ever happened to me, ever! Recently i had some CRAZY ones too, but now I know how extreme things can get. I guarantee you'll be freaked out, and it'll take a hell of alot of courage to be able to get past those barriers, but its worth it. It's a long journey.....it'll test you, trust me. HAVE FUN!!!


Edited by Tsurugi_Oni (05/16/05 08:33 PM)
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#144712 - 05/17/05 02:30 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Tsurugi_Oni]
Donte Offline
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so you want me to lie downin my bed and feel the energy goibng thro me while im visualizeing somthing that could physical touch my body but wont untill i break thru my potential?
or what?
or is theyr an egsact meditation for this or somthing
because i want to unlock my ki and then use it to my advantage


Edited by Donte (05/17/05 02:32 PM)
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#144713 - 05/17/05 04:53 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Donte]
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Try the ki-key

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#144714 - 05/17/05 05:04 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Donte]
Tsurugi_Oni Offline
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You got it all wrong! Don't visualize anything, you'll just fool yourself. Just sit there, relax, and it will come NATURALLY to you! As i said before, chi flows through you naturally, and u feel it with effortlessness. Don't try to analyze it, push for it, or use "willpower" to feel it, cuz then u wont, trust me. Just let go, or just meditate on your breathing, and you'll feel it. BTW you don't UNLOCK, ki, its always been in you. There is no exact meditation to feel chi, just do the lying down thing i told you.... Remember, relax, let go, and it'll come naturally! Tell me if u get any results =D
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#144715 - 05/17/05 05:48 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Donte]
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In meditation though I'm not a master of any sort, mediation and breathing is connected with you energy, focusing on your breathing while meditating is key. I only visualized because I studied psionics, and quigong. My visualization only helps when I know what my energy feels like but just meditate on breathing first. If you start visualizing and have know Idea what your energy is It like searching in the dark for a needle outside in the grass. You cant find it because when you look down you shadow blocks out the moonlight. You must sit back and relax eventually the needle will reflect the moonlight and expose itself.
I know from first hand experience.
The rythm of your breathing the natural flow of it is like a river leading you to a place you never been. Cast off on it and sail free. Find out where the journey takes you and
you'll never come back to place you have been.

Let it go release from your rope of security
an just when you least expect it your energy will find you.

Ohh were you guys listening.... I was just thinking to myself.

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#144716 - 05/17/05 06:04 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: nenipp]
Donte Offline
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Quote:

Try the ki-key



whats the ki key?
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#144717 - 05/17/05 06:30 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Donte]
DBZInspired Offline
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I need to know that one too.

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#144718 - 05/18/05 12:06 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Donte]
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Quote:


i want to unlock my ki and then use it to my advantage





I do believe that, in order to unlock, one needs a key

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#144719 - 05/18/05 04:57 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: evilofhallowseve]
Tsurugi_Oni Offline
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Im' not trying to be offensive, but some of u guys are very misguided. Get rid of all of your preconceptions of chi! You do NOT need a "key", special technique, or anything super special to feel your chi. And you do not UNLOCK chi, it naturally flows through you. Its always there, there is nothing to unlock. ok ok, do you want a "key"? It's an oxymoron. To unlock your chi you have to realize that there is nothing that is holding back but your own mind. Once you decrease your EGO (social status, culture, reputation, etc) you will begin to understand these types of things. Do you think the first person to realize chi had guidance, techniques, etc? Of course not, so don't rely as heavily on OTHERS and try to find your higher self. Only selflessness and perseverance will get you there.
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#144720 - 05/18/05 05:01 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Tsurugi_Oni]
Tsurugi_Oni Offline
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I wrote this, this will make you think... Reply with answers btw if you want. (it's important)

Who are you? I mean who are you really? When you take away your social status, who are you? Who are you when you take away all of the drama in your life, or if you never talked to anybody in your life? Who are you when you live in a place with no school, government, or laws? I guess what I'm asking, is what is the ESSENCE of you, before you were ever influenced by this outside world? If you got rid of this man-made illusion we call "life", who would you be? What would u be if you stripped away the suit and tie, the ghetto look, or the preppy clothes? Do you even know? Think about it.........and post your answer as a comment!
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#144721 - 05/18/05 08:45 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Donte]
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well Donte I say that you should meditate more often and control your breathing.....
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#144722 - 05/18/05 09:32 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Tsurugi_Oni]
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What would u be if you stripped away the suit and tie, the ghetto look, or the preppy clothes? Do you even know? Think about it.........and post your answer as a comment!




I'd be naked, and possibly cold depending on where I was.

Tsurugi, calm down man, nenipp was joking. Did you miss the smirking face? Donte asked how to "unlock his ki." Do you not see the wordplay...ki=key=something used to unlock

Come on man, do it with me:
1 deep breath in
2 deep breath out
3 lather, rinse, repeat
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#144723 - 05/19/05 01:34 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Tsurugi_Oni]
laf7773 Offline
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Tsurugi_Oni,

In reference to ground rule number 4. What training have you had?
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#144724 - 05/19/05 05:09 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: laf7773]
Tsurugi_Oni Offline
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Lol, sorry for not catching the joke, mostly people say it as "chee", so i didn't exactly get the joke ,lol. But anwayz a little bg info, i'm a black belt in tae kwon do (took it since 5), and i had various belts in judo, and phillipino martial arts. I also practice qigong and tai chi (for some time now), and I get alot of help from one of my friends. She is pretty advanced in energy control, and she helps out alot of people with it. I've been through alot, but i am still a complete novice. Understanding that even qigong masters are complete beginners compared to what lies before them. Honestly tho, i do haev quite a bit of experience, and i'm more than happy to help out other people. (BTW when i first started energy works i had NO guidance at all.... it was rough).
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#144725 - 05/09/08 07:07 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Tsurugi_Oni]
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this is not very related but, i have been experimenting with my ki (i actually prefer spelling it chi) for the past... 15 minutes. i discharged a ki ball into some water and it has been vibrating since. i am absolutly sure it exists (IT IS NOT A BUNCH OF HOCUS POCUS.)

i need some help though:
i was drawing ki from the earth and air to create a ki ball in each of my hands. once i accomplished this i began spining and compressing the ki balls. then, i merged them by putting my hands together. the closer my hands got the more pressure i felt in between them. when i finally put my hands completely together. i started feeling the tingling sensation ki generates (still feeling it,) so i concluded there was ki trapped within my aura meaning i did not absorb all of the ki into my "sea of Ki." my hands are cramping and twitching now as i write. could i have damaged my hands?

P.S. how can i discharge the ki "resedue" in my aura? (or in my hands)

EDIT:
im going to post this in a seperate thread

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and I'm going to lock it if it gets ridiculous!


Edited by Reiki (06/11/08 06:37 PM)

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#144726 - 05/09/08 07:23 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: userno99]
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#144727 - 05/09/08 07:53 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: MattJ]
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LEAVE ME ALONE MattJ! IVE READ THAT THREAD!!!

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#144728 - 06/11/08 04:45 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: userno99]
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Quote:

this is not very related but, i have been experimenting with my ki (i actually prefer spelling it chi)




Hmmmmm, that ought to help.

Quote:

for the past... 15 minutes.




That long, some of us have only been going at it for two or three decades.


Quote:

i discharged a ki ball into some water and it has been vibrating since.




the ki ball? the water? Did you know that could win $1,000,000 US if you can repeat this feat?

http://www.randi.org



Quote:

i am absolutly sure it exists (IT IS NOT A BUNCH OF HOCUS POCUS.)




Then I am sure that you will hurry on over to http://www.randi.org for your $1,000,000 US.


Quote:

i need some help though:




obviously...


Quote:

i was drawing ki from the earth and air to create a ki ball in each of my hands. once i accomplished this i began spining and compressing the ki balls. then, i merged them by putting my hands together. the closer my hands got the more pressure i felt in between them. when i finally put my hands completely together.




yep.


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i started feeling the tingling sensation ki generates (still feeling it,)





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The following comment was self-censored by Kempoman




** **** **** *** ******* ** ***** ****?


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so i concluded there was ki trapped within my aura meaning i did not absorb all of the ki into my "sea of Ki." my hands are cramping and twitching now as i write. could i have damaged my hands?




(can't fight it anymore)...no but you might go blind...

Quote:

P.S. how can i discharge the ki "resedue" in my aura? (or in my hands)




Kempoman is now rolling around on the floor and belly-laughing uncontrollably.

Quote:

EDIT:
im going to post this in a seperate thread




yes, do.
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#144729 - 06/11/08 04:49 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Kempoman]
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I am fully prepared to be well disciplined by Reiki for that last post.

Riding crop perhaps?
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#144730 - 06/11/08 06:34 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Kempoman]
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Consider yourself "reprimanded"!

aint nothin like a bloody great stick to instill fear into the masses......

that and a few hundred pressups and burpees...
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#144731 - 06/11/08 09:06 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Reiki]
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after you unlock your chi you could find out what's making those crop circles...Big foot , sasquach and there own version of the justice league (code name: church of Scientology) can help you.
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#144732 - 06/13/08 05:30 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Kempoman]
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And where in the heck have you been?
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#144733 - 06/13/08 08:28 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: laf7773]
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What in the hell is this?
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#144734 - 06/13/08 09:55 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: laf7773]
Kempoman Offline
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And where in the heck have you been?




Wating for you to get back to Texas. Even bought a house in Dallas to cover my bases. Between Houston and Dallas I figured I could trap you.

I see you took a left at Alberqerque and ended up in Greece. Nice.

I figured since school is out the 10 year old chi-masters would be out in full force. Thought I'd stop by and have a go.

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#144735 - 06/13/08 09:57 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Zombie Zero]
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What in the hell is this?




Could be the return of Darth Moderator.
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#144736 - 06/15/08 06:17 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: laf7773]
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And where in the heck have you been?




Well I have a very sick Dad at the moment and the others are covering base for me but I'm nipping in and out as well as time permits just to make sure that nothing bad goes on...!

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#144737 - 06/16/08 03:13 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Kempoman]
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Back to Texas huh? Funny you should say that, i'm actually in a battle royal with my detailers for my next set of orders (unfortunately they are winning as ussual). At the moment it's a toss up between recruiting in Texas, Protective services in Japan or Iraq. I really don't care either way at this point so long as i know where i'm going.
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#144738 - 06/16/08 05:22 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Reiki]
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Sorry Reiki, i was referring to Scott and his recent practice in the art of stealth.
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#144739 - 06/16/08 08:06 AM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: laf7773]
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#144740 - 06/16/08 02:27 PM Re: *bigginer* need help on controling ki energy [Re: Fisherman]
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Nip it in the bud huh? Good idea.
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