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#144025 - 05/27/05 08:13 PM Re: TKD vs. Ju_jitsu [Re: john739]
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TKD isnot that bad... it all depends in the fighter.

Juras, a famous polish ITF TKD practitioner beat up a Jiujitsu guy, a Judo guy, a kickboxer, a karateka dude... and etc.

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http://www.tkd.risp.pl/Juras_HL_Extreme.wmv
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#144026 - 08/01/05 01:18 AM Re: TKD vs. Ju_jitsu [Re: littlebadboy]
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Comparing TKD to Jujitsu is kind of useless anyways. You can't really say one is better just because a representative of one style happens to best a few representatives of another style. I'm pretty sure a man like Gracie would have been a world class fighter no matter what discipline he'd chosen because of his mental drive. It doesn't make Ju-jitsu inherently a great art...it means that it suited Gracie well and he used it well. I think a lot of Ju-jitsu guys would, in turn, have their hands full with Evander Holyfield whether or not he knew how to throw an armbar out of bottom guard or not. Because Evander knows how to punch and he uses his weapons well.

Chuck Liddell has proven that you can do very well in MMA relying heavily on stand up striking. I know he's not technically TKD, but close enough for the example to hold up. Of course, in my own personal opinion, ULTIMATE FIGHTER sucks as a gimmick.

If you beat 27 TKD guys I would doubt it had very much to do with their TKD and your Ju-Jitsu...you're probably simply a better fighter and more prepared then they were.

Environment plays a huge factor to. All these ULTIMATE FIGHTER guys fantasize at night about tiny little cages with rounded off fences that give and floors that won't take the skin off your back for rolling around on them for 20 minutes.

Might I add that in Ultimate fighter you are not allowed to eye gouge, stomp, hit the opponent in the throat or groin, fish hook the mouth......the list goes on and on. It's about as much like a street fight as my job at the pizza shack is like being CEO of microsoft.
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#144027 - 08/01/05 04:18 AM Re: TKD vs. Ju_jitsu [Re: Spin_Hook]
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#144028 - 08/02/05 06:31 PM Re: TKD vs. Ju_jitsu [Re: Ubermint]
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I don't believe I ever proposed that Ultimate fighting is "just a sport". I've followed it for quite some time and I have many of the fights on tape/DVD/what have you. Those are trained fighters swinging, tackling, and kicking each other. For many of them it's their full-time job.

However, like all SPORTS, the rules in ultimate fighting (in addition to the "ring" in which they perform) are biased towards fighting a certain way. No one is saying that ultimate fighting isn't real...but it's not a real all out fight by any means because so many potential techniques and possibilities are excluded by rules.

A "real fight" would never last for 15 minutes, plain and simple.

I wrestled for about a decade total...and I'm completely aware of how devastating proper ground fighting techniques can be. I've also seen plenty of experienced wrestlers get owned by people with no idea what they were doing because they thought that getting close enough to throw someone would be easy.


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#144029 - 08/02/05 06:55 PM Re: TKD vs. Ju_jitsu [Re: Spin_Hook]
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You didn't read a damn thing, did you?
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