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#142961 - 05/12/05 01:35 AM Tao of JKD
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My first post here
I've been doing JFJKD for almost 2 years now, and i was wondering how many people actually take Tao of JKD as a serious reference manual, as in, really read the stuff and try to apply. I'm asking because most of the people (excluding my sifu) say it's just a book and sohuldn't be taken seriously. But i actually read stuff like "tools", etc which contain a lot of usefull info, not just on the ones mindset, but actual techinque, footwork,etc.
So who's with me

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#142962 - 05/12/05 02:09 AM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: dragon_tail]
etaks86 Offline
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well since the book was wrote by the man that created jkd then yeah i would have to say that everything in the book should go hand in hand with your jkd training but that's my opinion. i mean tao of jkd was wrote by lee the founder and creater of jkd , i mean it's lee explaining jkd. so i would say that if your studying jkd then that book the tao of jkd should be your guide to jkd. anyway peace be with you


Edited by etaks86 (05/12/05 02:14 AM)

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#142963 - 05/12/05 02:18 AM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: etaks86]
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yeah i read that last post wrong and had to edit it. anyway i hope you do well in your study of jkd. but like i said before i think if someone is studying jkd then tao of jkd should be their guide.

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#142964 - 05/14/05 02:53 PM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: etaks86]
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the book wasn't written by him. he had no intention of publishing his notes.
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#142965 - 05/14/05 03:48 PM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: Fluid_Motion]
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Quote:

the book wasn't written by him. he had no intention of publishing his notes.




It doesn't MATTER whether he intended on publishing it or not - those were his THOUGHTS. It would seem to carry even MORE weight considering that those were his inner/private revelations.

-John

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#142966 - 05/14/05 04:10 PM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: JKogas]
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Those were his thoughts, yes. However, it's still not clear what part of those notes he actually used for himself. Like the grappling notes for example: Bruce did seem to have a taking for grappling, but what direction was he going to take that interest in?

Don't get me wrong; I like the book as much as the next person, but then again I actually train in JKD, whereas most people start reading the tao off the bat, and might get the wrong idea.

The truth is that he didn't write it; those were his notes, notes taken directly from other sources. It was compiled by a man named Gilbert Johnson.
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#142967 - 05/14/05 05:36 PM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: Fluid_Motion]
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there is also a much larger book, known as Jeet Kune Do, compiled by John Little. Little was given permission to go through lee's notes at his estate and compile them in a way that makes as much sense as possible. Its a great read.
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#142968 - 05/15/05 01:23 AM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: Fluid_Motion]
etaks86 Offline
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either way i would feel better learning it from his thoughts from his book and not from some person that is teaching and didn't learn it from lee or any of his students. i don't think someone has to learn from a teacher or "master" to be good at self defence. but that's my opinon. i think learning ma that take years to be good at are not the most effective way of fighting in the streets, i think to be good at defending yourself on the streets, buying a boxing bad and sparring with people will teach you how to defend yourself just fine. but adding a few simple moves from some styles that are somewhat effective is a good idea to. if you were ok at boxing then you could add some other simple moves and make your way of fighting even better like take your boxing and add a side kick, front and side low kick from wing chun, add some of the basic blocking and punching from wing chun, maybe add a few moves from karate that are effective in street fighting, and there you have it, the mobilty and basic of boxing with some effective wing chun and karate moves and that's in my opinon a good self defence art. anyway i'm sure that some may not agree but nevertheless it's my opinon and i know that some people or many people may not have the same views as i do and that's cool i'm just throwing in my opinon. and also keep in mind i did not say that ma that take years to learn are not effective at all i just said that in my opinon there's more effective ways of fighting that do not take near as long to learn. also i'm not saying that you shouldn't learn those kind of ma, if they make you happy then go ahead or for health or whatever reason. but i do think that many ma are not simple enough to work well in self defence, i mean a few of the grabs and moves of that nature are i think effective if someone is holding you then yeah i can see some moves in the traditional arts working like that. but if your both free of each other and are about to have a fight then i think that something simple like a mix of boxing, basic wing chun, and a few karate moves would be more effective then learning a whole style that takes years to get anywhere in. also i think if someone wants to learn how to fight they should learn something very simple that gets them at least ok results in less then a few months because they do not need to learn how to fight for a few years from now they need to be able to fight at least ok as soon as they can. but anyway i really hope that people do not get mad or anything at me beacause that's not what i'm wanting to do at all. i'm just wanting to share my opinons about fighting with other people. because you can disagree with me but i will take no offence to that and i will not get mad. i just wanted to point out that i'm respectfully saying these things not to offend just to share and i'm sure you will all do the same as well. so thanks and peace.

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#142969 - 05/15/05 01:31 AM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: DragonFire1134]
etaks86 Offline
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dragonfire yeah that sounds good i mean it being compiled by john little. i have not read that book yet but i think i might it sounds like a good book for jkd. thanks

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#142970 - 05/15/05 01:38 AM Re: Tao of JKD [Re: JKogas]
etaks86 Offline
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jkogas thanks for agreeing with me on tao of jkd. i agree with you that it does not matter if he had the intentions of the book being published or not. it still remains that the thoughts came from him on jkd. thanks and peace.

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