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#140082 - 05/09/05 11:09 PM Re: Blocks [Re: Ironfoot]
Cobra_nVidia Offline

Registered: 04/15/05
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I would like to hear some of the applications of the basic blocks in more detail please

I highly doubt the original purpose of these techniques was to block. I also doubt they were called "Uke waza" in Ryukyu

#140083 - 05/09/05 11:16 PM Re: Blocks [Re: Cobra_nVidia]
eyrie Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
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If you look at the word "uke" (in kanji), it means "to receive". That doesn't sound at all like "blocking" does it?

#140084 - 05/10/05 12:36 AM Re: Blocks [Re: Cobra_nVidia]
SANCHIN31 Offline
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Sure. Let's start with the rising block.

bunkai: attacker grabs wrist(could be shirt,etc..)while turning his wrist inward and grabbing(chamber)the other hand crosses under his arm behind his elbow.Then in the same motion pulling down with chamber and pushing upward while turning your wrist and dropping into your lowered stance. Assailants arm is either brokrn or dislocated.
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#140085 - 05/10/05 08:10 AM Re: Blocks [Re: SANCHIN31]
Bushi_no_ki Offline

Registered: 05/03/05
Posts: 1669
Loc: POM, Monterey CA
We have a saying in AKK, A block is a strike and a strike is a block. I can use the same hammerfist inward block as a strike to an available target, whereas I am also taught how to apply elbows as a form of block.

There is also another meaning to that. When someone attacks me, as I defend, I also want to attack in the same move. That means if someone punches at me, when I block, I am trying to break his arm (maybe not literally) as I prevent it from reaching me. I am attacking his arm as it is coming at me.

We'll just say that most nights I leave the dojo with a few bruises on my arms.

#140086 - 05/10/05 09:27 AM Re: Blocks [Re: Cobra_nVidia]
Chatan1979 Offline

Registered: 03/21/05
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Loc: Mahomet , Illinois

I would like to hear some of the applications of the basic blocks in more detail please

I highly doubt the original purpose of these techniques was to block. I also doubt they were called "Uke waza" in Ryukyu

see my previous post for an application of the reinforced ude uke.
I also like to look at morote shuto uke as many things. One application i like is to see it as another lapel choke. If you do the technique with one hand extended out and the other chambered by the ear, then you can try this.

The extended arm grabs the lapel chest level. The other striking hand slips under the collar (palm up)and grips the lapel(obviously the opposite lapel.). so you hands should be crossing each other with the hand that was chamberd on top across the neck and the other hand underneath. The top hand should tighten and slightly press into the neck while the other hand pulls down sharply on the lapel. This should happen simultaneously.
Difficult to explain in text sorry. If i had a way to post a pic i would. But anyone with judo experience might be able to better explain.
There is always someone who knows more, and noone who knows it all....

#140087 - 05/10/05 05:02 PM Re: Blocks [Re: SANCHIN31]
Petjut84 Offline

Registered: 05/10/05
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Blocks can be used to redirect or to hurt or to set up the next technique. In silat we have 10 blocks for the inside gate of the opponent and 10 other ones on the outside. You learn which specifically flow into different techniques and some destroy the limbs but later on it becomes like a big circel and you can transition from anywhere.

#140088 - 05/17/05 08:09 AM Re: Blocks [Re: Petjut84]
ken harding Offline

Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 721
Loc: UK
Chaps I prefer to think of Uke meaning receieve - ukemi "receives" technique from his master.
Block always implies hammering arms together and as a Wado practitioner that's not how I see them at all. They are a way of receiving/taking the opponents strength so that you can do something with it - which usually damages said opponent.
Heijo Shin

#140089 - 05/17/05 11:46 AM Re: Blocks [Re: Cobra_nVidia]
Gavin Offline
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Registered: 05/11/05
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Hi all this is now my second post....So I just like to say hello to all!

One application of a rising block/strike that we refer to a Jodan Uke is to strike at the multiple nerve points into the side of the neck. An attacker may step through with a right straight, you slip to the inside using your left hand to pull the attackers punch off balance to your left. At the same time step forward on the right foot and drive a right handed Jodan Uke up to the points in the side of the neck (The Acupoint Stomach-9 is a great target for this shot).

Hope that made sense!
Gavin King
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#140090 - 05/19/05 04:33 AM Re: Blocks [Re: Gavin]
SANCHIN31 Offline
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Welcome to the forums Gavin.
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#140091 - 05/19/05 05:25 PM Re: Blocks [Re: SANCHIN31]
dbsplinter Offline

Registered: 05/18/05
Posts: 3
Loc: Essex "England"
Gavins second post!!!
Well here`s my second post:
I believe in the maxim "when is a block not a block? when its a strike."
As for positioning of your self or your opponent, this all comes under tai sabaki.
There are only so many movements the body can make, so to indentify a movement and lable it depends on the situation you are in.
I know what i mean but putting it in print isn`t that easy is it.
It is better to stay quite and be thought of as a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt.

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