And still it goes on.

Look guys, in spite of the posts imploring me to keep this thread alive, I'm not running a self help resource for ex BAMA students. I wonder how many of you contribute this enthusiasticaly to the rest of the forum? On top of this all the BS about "secrets" to be shared in private and so on is weak in the extreme. Either thrash this issue out in the open or i'll close it down. I will not let this thread turn into a contact board for a network of the disgruntled to bitch to each other via email.
If you want to do that then organised it some other way that doesnt involve FightingArts.

Mr V

mr V

Good call - close it , which is what I have been suggesting for some time.

It's going no where, no one can prove anything, all that is offered is opinion and conjecture and certainly the likes of Pete, Murray etc are not going to say 'fair coop gov'

There is a whole world of youth (and others) out there, who, in my opinion, would be better steared clear of BAMA. No, I will rephrase that, stear clear of PD. To reiterate what many othes have said, if you enjoy it, do it if you respect your teacher, carry on otherwise, quit/don't join(if you seriously like BS, join an S & M group).

And finally, for those who need a self help group, bitching forum etc I have suggested a get together - it was a serious posting - not one taker (ex you andywoz).

Good luck to all of you. May those who have talked about honour discover integrity and may the ring masters of this forum consider the use of cosher names and email adresses for postings at point of entry (as other forums do) otherwise, why do we all feel the need to hide behind strange nicknames pseudonyms.

And finally, to finish on my favourite hykyu
to express yourself
in less than
seventeen sylables is
very diffic

Skiggsy

Hi Skiggsy.

Yes your right, my sources are 2nd hand, but they were told it by (as you so rightly observe) one of those who was present, and as we can discount two of those, then we're left with --- who? In my opinion (which is not worth any more than anyonelse's) that original source is likely to be very reliable.

As to the question about why did he not contact one of you? It could be that he did but who, and if so, why was that individual not subsequently appointed? Perhaps they did not want to own up to having had the interview, only to be told they were not up to the task? You know the names involved and their capabilities, who would have been capable, but unable to interview well enough? Which one would have been (I'm only asking the question) unable to express themselves sufficently well to qualify as an instructor? My guess (only a guess) is that if one was indeed approched, then that is the one. You will know who, not me.

Alternatively maybe he expected under the circumstances, one of you to contact him with a veiw to taking over PD's position, after all it was now vacant. When this did not happen in a reasonable time (lets say a week or two) could it be he thought (and I'm only speculating) 'sod em' they are all tarred with the same brush, no get up and go. If they aren't sufficiently interested to get in touch, then I can afford to do without their business.

Maybe he did try to fill the vacancy of instructor, but, was unable to find someone who was qualified and prepared to move to your area. No offence in this believe me, but when this type of thing happens, it is most often better to fill the vacancy with someone who is unknown to those left in-situ, as there is no fear of favouritism or the opposite. You find this type of replacement/promotion strategy very often in Government Service and large companies. For instance in the Civil Service, if you pass a promotion board its almost certain that to get the next job up the ladder, you will be required to move to a totaly different geographic location, or even overseas depending on the department you work for.

Oh by the way, I have no contacts whatever with any of the local hospitals in your vacinity. My only acquaintance with the area is because my friend and business colleague lives in the Cottswolds, so I'm afraid I can be of no assistance on that score. My friends who have a relevance to this discussion have all moved away from the South Midlands area which is how I came to know them.

No doubt the actual facts will emerge eventually, but for now, my money would be on the version of events that I have relayed to you. JA would appear to be regarded very highly and noted for his precision when instructing or talking in terms of detail. On the other hand, PD would seem to be noted for being regularly guilty of 'shall we say' "verbal inexactitudes"?

Best regards.

MC.

i agree.
close it.
i think that the guys and gals at fighting arts have been very generous with their forum space and time.
thanks to all of you.

if anyone wishes to be directed to another place that they can go to relating to experiences inside the BAMA, please email.

rinkydinkpanther2005@yahoo.co.uk

thanks

Hi All,

I would just like to say that for some reason the topic has jumped straight to PD.

I think that PD is only a part of the problem, What about the way that students are trained I,e, Projected Agression.

He has created an army of believers in a total crock of S**T and has taught them how to destroy a target. I'm sorry but it may not concern you but it bothers me!

Yes there is an alleged Secret knowledge that is promised once you hit delane academy but you have to be dedicated.
I've visited cotsfield many times only to be given the chance to watch dvd's or listen to pods and I promise you that there are no where as near as is made out.After a couple of weeks I had gone through the lot.

The new plan was to get more revenue in through Dru's ladder which again was a carrot to get students to the secret stuff sooner that others. Even though its promised I do believe its a con and just a carrot being dangled!

I hear some prices have gone up to?

I bumped into a couple guys that I had trained with for somtime and had not seen them since I left the BAMA and so I went and said hi and got completly blanked by them, now you can't tell me thats normal. What was even stranger later that week I saw another guy I trained with and he was fine, we talked for ages about how things were and he was fed up with things and was thinking of leaving BAMA.

my main point in closing how dangerous do you think projected agression can be?
I've trained with the BAMA for along time and whenever I now train my mind switches and starts to project and I'm ready to go through whatever stands in my way.
From experience thats not good for me and it's sure as hell not good for the other guy.

If all the BAMA students are trained this way and believe in PD lies then don't you think that this could be just a bigger part of the problem?


BlackMask

Come on administrators, close it.

I feel an irritating compulsion to check this forum every day or so, even though it's pretty much dead now.

I can't drag myself away. The only way I can escape is if you close it.

Please!

(Slightly more seriously, thanks for all the info everyone, it's been interesting & informative)

Thankyou MC for sharing what you had learnt. Gaining your friends consent was much appreciated. I have to say I think that all that can be said has been said. There is enough here to put off prospective members, and also to open the eyes of existing ones (what happened with me). If current members of BAMA have seen this thread and do not consider it enough to question their choice of school, then they never will. No more can be done for them in this medium. Threads dead baby; threads dead.(sniff) [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Blackmask.

This "Projected Agression" bit is very worrying. I have never come across it in any other school. What does it consist of exactly and how does the 'victim' realise it is being done and how do they then counter it?

I would appreciate your advice.

Many thanks.

MC.

Hi,

I feel slightly responsible for this whole thing as I started it!

I started it with honest intentions and after reading all the posts it seems that it has helped / informed lots of people.

So job done then.

It would be nice to close it now, it's served its purpose.

No it has not: we've now got to this "projected agression" bit which needs sorting out.

Don't you want to know why they teach this? Particularly when they don't compete?

If we do not get to the bottom of this, it's going to be a lot more dangerous on the streets, for everybody. I'm going to print this lot off and take to to a copper freind of mine. There has to be something illegal in this lot somewhere.

MC.