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#137519 - 03/25/05 01:31 PM practical and legal arnis/escrima
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i've heard and read about the philipino ma's being well suited to the modern altercation, but my question pertain's to what do you use? is there a legal 'weapon' to be carried that applys to arnis? what about those telescopic baton's cop's cary? can civilian's cary those?

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#137520 - 03/25/05 02:06 PM Re: practical and legal arnis/escrima
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You would need to check the laws of the country that you live in.

We can buy the ninja flick batons here and I own one, however I'm not sure how you'd go if you used it in self defense and badly hurt someone with it.

I think you'd be prosecuted.

There was a case here not so long ago where someone hurt a burglar who attacked him, then the burglar claimed for accident compensation and got it.

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#137521 - 03/25/05 02:40 PM Re: practical and legal arnis/escrima
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that's pretty rediculous. can laws be looked up on the internet?

p.s. i see you're kiwi, you a rugger?

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#137522 - 03/25/05 10:30 PM Re: practical and legal arnis/escrima
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kobra_kai:
that's pretty rediculous. can laws be looked up on the internet?

p.s. i see you're kiwi, you a rugger?
[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I dunno mate. I'd google it for your country & see what pops up.

[IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG] not all kiwis play rugby, especially us women, some of us prefer other sports - when we aren't doing MA that is. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

My choices involve sharp pointy things, large sticks and a 4 legged 600kg partner. Not necessarily in that order or all at once. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

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#137523 - 03/27/05 02:35 AM Re: practical and legal arnis/escrima
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Let's not forget, eskrima isn't just about olisi (stick). Knife techniques, while working excellently with blades (duh) can often be applied to something like a very sturdy pen. Which, last time I looked, was perfectly legal anywhere in the world.

Also improvised sticks, like umbrellas, broomsticks and other stuff is legal as well. I have a very strong (actually reinforced, but don't tell anyone) telescopics umbrella that I have carried from time to time.

In New Zealand the weapon carry laws are problematic. The Crimes act defines a weapon as anything manufactured, modified or possessed with the intent to use as a weapon. Can pretty much cover anything. At this to the fact that the crims don't care about the law, things are biased *against* ordinary folks carrying defensive weapons.

Oh, and not all kiwis are rugby fiends. Some of us don't need a ball as an excuse to get in a fight! [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

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#137524 - 03/27/05 03:48 AM Re: practical and legal arnis/escrima
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hehe, touche`

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#137525 - 04/14/05 12:02 AM Re: practical and legal arnis/escrima
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quote: ninja flick batons

What you're referring to is probably as ASP Telescoping Baton. It's not a toy or cheap MA weapon. It's used by many LE personnel around the world including US Secret Service. In some countries, states it's illegal to purchase/own one. Check your local laws.

It's a great weapon if you can get hold of one because they're rarely sold to non-LE personnel.

[This message has been edited by hedkikr (edited 04-14-2005).]

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