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#136884 - 09/25/04 01:30 AM contact sparring weapons
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what do people use?

do you make them yourself, or buy them? where from? or how do you make them?

i've been thinking of several designs, however realistic feel is an issue that needs over coming. that is, to make bludeoning weapons... that dont bludgeon... are difficult to make and feel right. you get me?

i've seen a few sites here and there... anywho, now to you.

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#136885 - 09/29/04 10:11 AM Re: contact sparring weapons
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My father makes them for me... I bought one bokken from my Kenjutsu sensei... and my dad makes copies from that bokken i bought.

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#136886 - 09/30/04 02:24 AM Re: contact sparring weapons
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but surely a wooden bokken is not suitable for contact sparring??

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#136887 - 09/30/04 02:57 PM Re: contact sparring weapons
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I've made several sets of sticks from lancewood which is a NZ native hardwood and can break oak. It is really hard and knarly but makes nice sticks.

The only downside I've had is that my last set started to splinter after about 4 years of hard use, so I've replaced them with some nice rattan ones instead.

Some of the guys made their bo from lancewood too, but I prefered rattan and oak because the lancewood ones are very lumpy to handle.

[IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/IMG]

I bought my bokkens, the first one split very quickly and the manufacturer replaced it free because the wood was obviously not seasoned properly.

I've seen a couple of sites with patterns for nunchaku too if u are interested.

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#136888 - 09/30/04 03:17 PM Re: contact sparring weapons
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For some basic contact weapons, don't know if these are similar to manufactured ones, but you can look up NERO on google (type in NERO weapons or Nero weapon plans, you get the idea), it is a real life Role playing game and they have to make thier own weapons. There are alot of plans on net to make them. most consist of pvc pipe foam padding and duct tape. Some of the guys in our school use wooden dowels with plumbing pipe insulation covered in duct tape. Don't know if this is what you had in mind, just a thought.

[This message has been edited by coxne (edited 09-30-2004).]

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#136889 - 10/01/04 01:12 AM Re: contact sparring weapons
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thankyou coxne, that is what i had in mind, i dont want to know about wooden training weapons for they are unsuitable to spar with.

I've seen other organisations like the one u mentioned, namely dagohir seems to be the largest. AEMMA, and ARMA are two european martial arts groups that also have instructions on making padded sparring weapons. Im just looking for added input.

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#136890 - 10/07/04 01:46 PM Re: contact sparring weapons
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by nose:
thankyou coxne, that is what i had in mind, i dont want to know about wooden training weapons for they are unsuitable to spar with.


Tell that to the Dog Brothers.

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#136891 - 10/07/04 06:54 PM Re: contact sparring weapons
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Most stick fighting uses wooden weapons, it wouldn't be traditional to use anything else. We spar with all wooden sticks.

Ditto that with bo.

You have to pad up well if you are really going to it properly [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

I would think that plastic padded weapons would be too light to use correct technique with and that strikes with proper weapons would suffer because of it.

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#136892 - 10/08/04 08:44 AM Re: contact sparring weapons
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The Dog Brothers( a MA training group in California) use fencing masks and hockey gloves. That's it. No other protection. Then they use ratan batons and go at it full power. Apparently, they don't consider it to be unsuitable. Sure are a lot of crazy people in this world.

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#136893 - 10/08/04 11:47 AM Re: contact sparring weapons
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Reiki:
I would think that plastic padded weapons would be too light to use correct technique with and that strikes with proper weapons would suffer because of it.[/QUOTE]


That is probably why the guys in class use padded wood ones, they don't wear any padding or armor or anything of the sort.

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#136894 - 10/10/04 08:16 AM Re: contact sparring weapons
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yes yes, but i like my bones just as they are (id est: in tact) and that's why i have presented my challenge, to find a realistic padded system for weapons sparring.

would any one know what sort of foams would be suitable?

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#136895 - 10/21/04 09:11 PM Re: contact sparring weapons
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nose,

Try www.sof-stx.com
they make a good product.

tkd

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#136896 - 10/25/04 05:53 AM Re: contact sparring weapons
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by nose:
yes yes, but i like my bones just as they are (id est: in tact) and that's why i have presented my challenge, to find a realistic padded system for weapons sparring.

would any one know what sort of foams would be suitable?
[/QUOTE]

We use wooden weapons as they're more realistic in weight and also gives you a better idea of the flow and motion of each weapon. When we spar, there is no contact, we just practice the movements but still make slight contact with our opponent. Although in aikido, we practice with weapons because the wrist action when striking with a weapon is similar to some of the throwing techniques we practice.

You sometimes get whacked but this only encourages you to move out the way and react better for next time!!

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#136897 - 11/01/04 05:10 PM Re: contact sparring weapons
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ive never tried these personally but i imagine they would work okay www.actionflex.com

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