Here's a hint; Looking good does not always mean "efective."

Oozuro

It's good to know that there is hope for the homely.

oldman

Im not even sure what your post is about. Is it a question, a statement, what? Please clarify.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chen Zen:
Im not even sure what your post is about. Is it a question, a statement, what? Please clarify.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I guess it's both. But if it sounds like I'm trying to get answers and secretly DON'T know what it is,
1. I've been taught it
2. It's on the web

Chen, perhaps you know what it is.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oozuru:
Sorry, I guess it's both. But if it sounds like I'm trying to get answers and secretly DON'T know what it is,
1. I've been taught it
2. It's on the web

Chen, perhaps you know what it is.[/QUOTE]

I do but whats the point? Do you need technical advice or do you just have a question what?

My motives are obscure, um okay, I just want to know why I never heard of anyone talk about it. I mean granted I never saw it in one of Bruce's movies and not everyone here is a Jeet Kune Do practitioner, I just assume a majority of the people here do practice Jeet Kune Do. So they would know what a straight blast is, perhaps enough to talk about it. Sure, it's not 'stylish' but it works.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oozuru:
My motives are obscure, um okay, I just want to know why I never heard of anyone talk about it. I mean granted I never saw it in one of Bruce's movies and not everyone here is a Jeet Kune Do practitioner, I just assume a majority of the people here do practice Jeet Kune Do. So they would know what a straight blast is, perhaps enough to talk about it. Sure, it's not 'stylish' but it works.[/QUOTE]

Its come up before. Perhaps not in its own thread but in others. You should check the archives. They're a gold mine, or better yet start a thread explaining your thoughts on it. Im sure many people would like to discuss it.

I know what the straight blast is...I practice it...and I assume others are trained in it...but what is your goal in this thread?

The straight blast is cool and all, but I believe that many JKD practitioners (and even more than a few wing chun practitioners) are moving away from the straight blast and are now using the boxing blast as they begin to train more realistically. They are seeing that it has more power than the straight blast and is a "safer" move to throw.

That doesn't mean the straight blast "doesn't work" or can't work. Everything has it's place. I've done the straight blast for years. Now all I do is the boxing blast and I'll never go back. There's no comparison.


-John

I am a little confused.

I can see how you keep moving forward with the straight blast, as your body faces the opponent the whole time, but wouldn't you have to be sideways to make the boxing blast work? Would that not compromise you ability to press forward very far?

Not that I use the straight blast for 10 moves, but I have a hard time dashing sideways.

Perhaps I am unclear on the boxing blast.

[This message has been edited by MattJ (edited 02-20-2005).]

You're still moving forward with the boxing blast. It is initiated out of a forward facing, modified boxing structure.

The boxing blast is just a straight blast thrown with horizontal fists from more of a boxing structure.

You throw the jab/cross combo which because of your forward motion and footwork, then becomes a series of alternating crosses.

It seems awkward until you actually do it.

If you want to see it executed perfectly, watch the UFC fight between Vitor Belfort and Wanderlei Silva. I can't remember which one that is now, but Belfort blows Silva across the octagon (about 25 to 30 feet) with it. And that's no small task.

Timing is important, just as it is with the straight blast.


-John

It was pretty.

oldman

While reading JKogas's post, he took the words right out of my mouth. That match was a great example, Vitor took him all the way across the octagon, definately worth the rent.

Both the boxing blasts and the regular straight blasts has its advantages and disadvantages, but I like the footwork of the boxingblasts because I think it is easier to put bodyweight into the punch.

I like the regular blasts because I think it's easier to control the centerline, and deflect an incoming attack.

However I found that incorporating the footwork of the boxing blasts into the regular blasts, and adding a little hip rotation will provide almost the same extra power, while using the angle of the regular straight blasts will make it easier to control the centerline.

Anybody else had experience with this? I have found it quiet useful.

[This message has been edited by kook ha (edited 02-21-2005).]

is this another matter of not fitting a square peg into a round hole?? not using leg kicks from grappling range and not punching from 17 feet away? sometimes the boxing blast is better suited, other times not, either way we never use what doesnt work. also dont eat yellow snow.

exactly my point. But I just believe that the good thing about the boxing blast are the extra power, and the good thing about the regular blast are the ability to easier deflect an attack of off the centerline, and in my experience both can come to use by simply changing the footwork of the regular blasts... ok, admitted, it's not a regular blast anymore then, but hey, you probably know what I mean

vertical, horizontal, who cares. However, i've seen some videos of Emin Boztepe doing some of his wing chun (with vertical fists)and it is SCARY. Fast as a buzzsaw. musta punched him seventy times in a couple seconds.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by buddhabong:
vertical, horizontal, who cares. However, i've seen some videos of Emin Boztepe doing some of his wing chun (with vertical fists)and it is SCARY. Fast as a buzzsaw. musta punched him seventy times in a couple seconds.[/QUOTE]

You can't PUNCH seventy times in a couple seconds, you can however strike that many times in about ten seconds.

I thought it does matter if the punch is verticle or horizontal for bone alignment and it does not effect speed unless you finish the punch the way it was started?

the straight blast does work i have personally used it many times in both sparing an street fights that i have had.Ihave found a good way to train it is with weights