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#136337 - 01/31/05 12:30 PM a view on Ninjitsu
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My brother in law has a freind who has studied Ninjitsu for about 6 months he was telling me some stuff about it how good it is and stuff like that.

can any of you out there give me an insight of ninjitsu? is it affective? all i know it was big in the 80's, guys wearing monkey suits and all the ninja movies, and the only time i have seen ninjitsu in action was in UFC 3 were this ninjitsu fighter was up against Pat Smith the kickboxer and i must say i thought the Ninja would of won, but he got smashed.

so can anyone out prove to me how effective ninjitsu really is? we don't live in feudal japan anymore when men walked around with swords and weapons.

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#136338 - 01/31/05 01:50 PM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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Hmmmm....thought this was a JKD forum [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG]

Check on the martial arts talk forum for threads on ninjutsu.

BTW, Steve Jennum (ninjutsu, trained with Robert Bussey) won several matches in the early UFC's.

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#136339 - 02/01/05 12:48 AM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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Im sure that there are better threads that you can find this info but I will let it stay for now. However, be prepared to possibly be bashed for it. A lot of guys here are too serious.

Look up Jack Hoban if you want authentic Ninja practice. He was the only westerner to be apptoved to teach it. As far as I know he is still the only one.

If its practiced in the manner that he did, sure. Fine art. However, it isnt a direct fighting art. It has mch more to do with subterfuge and deception.

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#136340 - 02/01/05 12:20 PM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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yes i know this is a jkd forum, thats why i wanted to know what the kjd comunity thought about it, and if anyone have come across it.

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#136341 - 02/01/05 02:46 PM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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Chen -

As far as I know, Stephen K. Hayes, Robert Bussey and Rich VanDonk were also licensed to teach from Dr. Hatsumi, though I am unclear on their current status.

laf7773(?) probably knows more.

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#136342 - 02/01/05 05:07 PM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MattJ:
Chen -

As far as I know, Stephen K. Hayes, Robert Bussey and Rich VanDonk were also licensed to teach from Dr. Hatsumi, though I am unclear on their current status.

laf7773(?) probably knows more.
[/QUOTE]

I knew the name sounded familiar so I looked around and I have heard some good things from other artists about Stephen Hayes

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#136343 - 02/01/05 09:28 PM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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all i know it was big in the 80's, guys wearing monkey suits and all the ninja movies


The ninja boom of the 80's was a bunch of crap and gave ninjutsu a bad name.


so can anyone out prove to me how effective ninjitsu really is?


I can't prove anything, but I believe the art can be effective for the street if you train in an alive manner with a legit instructor (a lot of the techniques aren't good for sport fighting as they are against the rules). The problem being that there aren't many legit ninjutsu schools around, and I don't think most of them train hard, with a lot of sparring.

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#136344 - 02/01/05 09:34 PM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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Look up Jack Hoban if you want authentic Ninja practice. He was the only westerner to be apptoved to teach it. As far as I know he is still the only one.


There are actually a few Americans who go to train with Masaaki Hatsumi in Japan and are allowed to teach. Bill Atkins is one of them that wasn't mentioned.

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#136345 - 02/02/05 01:34 PM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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ShawnC -

Yes, I forgot to mention Bud Malmstrom, too.

There was a lot of crap in the ninja boom, but that was what got me started! (1984)

*sound of death by embarassment*

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#136346 - 02/05/05 02:03 AM Re: a view on Ninjitsu
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It was UFC 2 where the guy that did American Ninjutsu got owned. He actually has a school near me. After he lost that fight the system changed a lot. They started working a lot more on takedowns and grappling. American Ninjutsu was started by Robert Bussey and is pretty much just a Christian version of Ninjutsu. I took it for a good while and we did all sorts of stuff. Stand up, ground (mostly ground), weapons, and stealth. They even do ninja camps. It is overall good stuff, I just didn't really want to do weapons and stealth stuff anymore and my place was kind of slacking off on everything else.

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