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#135973 - 12/20/04 02:56 PM The Wing Chun Misconception.
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This is a new forum for all those who wish to discuss the very blatant misconception that wing chun is an inferior martial science.

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#135974 - 12/20/04 03:56 PM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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Yup, I'd like to discuss it. That'd be fun.


-John

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#135975 - 12/21/04 07:31 PM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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It's not an inferior martial art. If anyone says it is then go fight Leun Ting, even though he's Wing Tsun, i don't think there's a huge difference.

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#135976 - 12/21/04 08:44 PM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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If you wanna see trapping watch GRECO!
Really, you have no idea what you have done by awakening the wrath of the Kogas.

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#135977 - 12/23/04 06:46 AM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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I am "trying" to be more open minded in my views here and approach things from ALL angles.


That said, I've practiced wing chun for a few years with my JKD training. I practiced the trapping, the chi sao, etc., etc. The problem was, when we actually fought, very little if any of the wing chun method actually transfered over into the fights we would have. This led me, as it did Bruce, to eventually drop most of the WC training that we were doing.

This isn't to say that all wing chun is useless or that it all doesn't work. EVERY technique can work given it's own "time". My main beef was the for the most part, wing chun is not trained alive (exception being a limited amount of sparring that they do).

Cheers!


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#135978 - 12/27/04 09:46 PM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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leung ting, all i gotta say.

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#135979 - 12/28/04 07:31 AM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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I have heard some JKD people refer to "pummeling" as being more realistic or high percentage than chi sao.

Having recently had some training in pummeling, it seems to me that they are for different ranges.

I will grant you that the chi sao range does not occur in a real fight for more than a second or two, but the pummeling range would seem to exist for about as long until you are straight up clinched with the opponent.

I am not quite prepared to throw out my years of chi sao just yet.

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#135980 - 01/04/05 10:32 PM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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I Look at the other stuff I took and I think wing chun makes the most sense, I think its the best thing you can have for a foundation to build of off, and the fact that the system doesnt throw 50 thousand Katas at you makes it seem a little more realistic to actually master, why would i wanna learn 50 blocks to the head when i can consentrate on mastering 2 or 3, that way i have less to think about and i can concentrate on reacting, lag time, timing and reading motion.

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#135981 - 01/07/05 05:02 AM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wing Chun Kuen:
This is a new forum for all those who wish to discuss the very blatant misconception that wing chun is an inferior martial science.[/QUOTE]

Wing Chun has often been compared to old British bare-knuckle pugilism.

Both have a similar en guarde stance.

Both make use of punches with the vertical fist.

But, pugilism at least made provision for defending against takedowns and throws, since they were a part of London Prize Ring rules.

Wing Chun does not have this provision.

So, you're left with a close-range striking method that has no grappling backup.




[This message has been edited by Armed_Man_Piker (edited 01-07-2005).]

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#135982 - 01/07/05 03:58 PM Re: The Wing Chun Misconception.
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This led me, as it did Bruce, to eventually drop most of the WC training that we were doing.

This is very true. It is refreshing to see people that know the truth.

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