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#135916 - 12/15/04 02:54 PM Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
Wolfpack Offline
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Registered: 04/23/04
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Loc: Langley B.C. Canada
I have a friend who studies Jeet Kune Do and he was telling me about how Bruce lee when he studied fencing took the idea of destroying your opponents attack. He invorperated this into his martial art by using elbows to destroy a punch and knees to destroy a kick. Personally I can see how the knee can work as it has happen to me in a fight. (I ended up with a sprained ankle from my opponents knee :S)

I'm curiouse about how effective the elbow is though, very curiouse. Any of you Jeet Kune Do practinors ever use this technique? And if you have do you find it effective; as in can you raise your elbow fast enough to intercept the punch and is the damage to your elbow less than the fist?

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#135917 - 12/15/04 03:27 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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You better believe you can hit someone's fist with your elbow!

My friends and I have been working a modified version of chi sao practice for years now, and just using elbow blocks (not trying to hit the hand, just block it), we have ACCIDENTLY hit each others fists. OUCH!!

It is very easy to hurt the fist that way....trust me. Your elbow can be raised very fast (faster than the hand IMO, because the elbow has less distance to travel to it's target).

Your large arm bones are much sturdier that the little bones in your hand, as well. You would think that the chances of hitting the "funny bone" are high when doing this, but this has never happened to me as a result of doing an elbow block. I think chances are low if you use it as a strike, as well.

Very useful technique.

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#135918 - 12/15/04 04:36 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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in regards to blocking using elbows, if your attacker's speed is slow, for example someone who does not study the arts and is merely attacking you in the street, when and if they strike to hit you in the face you can raise your arm so that your nose is in the pit of your elbow. no matter how hard they hit you your face will remain cushioned and void of pain where as their fist will plummet into your elbow, using their attacking energy against them.

This is only an example and is surprisingly difficult to actually pull off, however i ahve mamaged it once when i was seventeen and was attacked whilst slighlty drunk and walking home from a pub one night. it worked very effectively and although i do not know the outcome of the damage, i could see the attacking lad was in extreme pain and the situation was diffused. on a side note i would not recomend fighting someone whilst under the influence of alcohol, not only does it dramatically slow reflexes but it also impairs judgement, leaving you to belive you have mystical kung fu powers that can render your attacker impotent merely by looking at them. This is EXTREME drunken boxing. he he.

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#135919 - 12/15/04 07:47 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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I use this technique alot. Its also a good excercise to teach students not to reach outwards when attempting to block.

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#135920 - 12/15/04 08:11 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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I have absolutely no trouble executing this technique (elbow spike). It's immensely useful.

I tend to use it when I'm further away as it's not anything you'd want to do in close.

I do it by just raising my elbow and dropping my rear heel to the ground as the shot comes in. If the punch is aimed at my face (and from long distance, most are), I replace my nose with my elbow, if that makes any sense.

All you have to do is develop a little timing with it to make it successful. Just have someone put 16oz boxing gloves on (trust me, you'll NEED 16oz gloves) and practice. It's easy.

-John

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#135921 - 12/16/04 04:54 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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yeah once you practice it for a while it becomes almost automatic when you see your attacker go for that ranged high jab, but i personally find it easier to deflect and send them off their balance. i say easier, that doesnt mean its anywhere near as effective or prefered, just considerably easier.

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#135922 - 12/24/04 05:42 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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Ji Do Kwan utilizes this idea. Nearly every block is an attack on your opponents limb, redirecting it and damaging the wrist or forearm of the attacker.

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#135923 - 01/08/05 12:15 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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simple when your opponent attacks you with a left or right cross just raise you lead arm. i call it the forearm block

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#135924 - 01/08/05 12:25 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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doh.......the pic stuffed up

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#135925 - 01/08/05 02:35 PM Re: Destroying Your Opponents Attack?
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Technically, it was Inosanto and his use of Arnis / Kali / Escrima that the idea of limb destruction entered in to JKD. This wasn't something that was being taught prior to 1973. That was when Bruce Lee died and Inosanto started adding the Filipino arts to his instruction.

Certainly effective, but often inaccurately credited to JKD as it was taught by Bruce Lee.

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