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#135612 - 11/03/04 05:31 PM Croos-training
Christiancadet Offline
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OK, I know that it is not always a good idea to just take 4 different kinds of martial art instead of taking one class that teaches it all. But not every town has JKD school, and I was wondering what styles worked well together. Currently I am involved in HKD freestyle wrestling and TKD, and I was wondering if dropping a style and adding boxing or another style would be a good idea, or what styles to try and look for. Also what would be a good way of trying to combine these styles?

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#135613 - 11/03/04 07:52 PM Re: Croos-training
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Ideally if you train this way you want a specific style for a specific range. Say Savate/TKD=kicking Range
Boxing= Punching Range/close Range
Wing Chun/Snake= Trapping Range
Judo/Jujitsu=ground Range

You want to take the techniques from each and put it into your unique fighting appoach. Thus makeing your own JKD. But at the same time you dont want to be limited by any one system thus remaining free to study others as you see fit. No one art teaches it all it dont matter if its JKD, TKd, Karate etc. Personally I chose one base are and studied different arts to add and expand my base art, but still I can switch to any system I've studied to adapt.

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#135614 - 11/03/04 10:58 PM Re: Croos-training
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If you have boxing available to you, Id say drop the tkd and go box instead. Better footwork and "stance". It will give you a good standup game to start out with, and you can have a decent ground game as well. Then later, if you want to do kicks and things try Muay Thai. If you dont have boxing available then go for Muay Thai, Wing Chun, or Jujitsu.

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#135615 - 11/04/04 12:06 PM Re: Croos-training
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Registered: 08/20/03
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AgenT:
No one art teaches it all[/QUOTE]


why are people convinced that no one art teaches it all?

Not meaning to pick but i can name a few that teach everything but gun slinging! [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

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#135616 - 11/04/04 01:47 PM Re: Croos-training
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No one art teaches you how to counter all forms of violence. There is simply to much. Just because a art teaches all ranges and maybe some weapons no matter how physicaly effective still dont solve the problem of violence, violence is a disease ppl just cause it to adapt by just treating the symtoms. There are still several factors like: psychology-both yours and attackers, avoidance, criminal mindset, rape prevention, tactical shooting, realistic knife and gun defense. evironment-how effective will you combatives be if you have to fight on ice?, tort laws,self-defense laws. physiology-such as how to counter the adrenalin dump. The list goes on and on if you have a cure all art that teaches all these thing satisfactory(by that I mean simple realistic approach)then by all means post it on this thread so I can switch of to it.

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#135617 - 11/07/04 05:34 PM Re: Croos-training
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MuayThai:

why are people convinced that no one art teaches it all?

Not meaning to pick but i can name a few that teach everything but gun slinging! [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]

If there IS "one art" that teaches it all -- it would be seen as MMA.

So yes, there IS in fact, one art that teaches "it all".


-John

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#135618 - 11/07/04 10:46 PM Re: Croos-training
Anonymous
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I'm curious, How so. How do you see MMA as containing it all.

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#135619 - 11/07/04 11:01 PM Re: Croos-training
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AgenT:
I'm curious, How so. How do you see MMA as containing it all.[/QUOTE]

MMA "contains it all" in the unarmed context.

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#135620 - 11/08/04 03:00 AM Re: Croos-training
Anonymous
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Then MMA is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure it would be fine if the streettrat isnt stacking the deck, and they will stack the deck, because surviving is their only concern other then screwing you up. If so then the fighter can quickly find themselves on the wrong end of a blade or pumped full of lead. Realistic training requires far more then hand to hand Skills While mma would be a good place to learn basic skills. Those skills have to change drastically if a weapon is introduced. And a skilled REAL fighter wont give you a chance to use what you know, They are very good at getting you in a bad position.

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#135621 - 11/08/04 05:22 AM Re: Croos-training
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AgenT:
Then MMA is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure it would be fine if the streettrat isnt stacking the deck, and they will stack the deck, because surviving is their only concern other then screwing you up. If so then the fighter can quickly find themselves on the wrong end of a blade or pumped full of lead. Realistic training requires far more then hand to hand Skills While mma would be a good place to learn basic skills. Those skills have to change drastically if a weapon is introduced. And a skilled REAL fighter wont give you a chance to use what you know, They are very good at getting you in a bad position.[/QUOTE]

So add some FMA stick-and-knife work to the repertoire, then.

The Filipino arts have retained their functionality, in regards to the use of weapons, which is a comparatively rare thing these days. When it comes to weapons use, most styles have been reduced to what is essentially performance art.


[This message has been edited by Armed_Man_Piker (edited 11-08-2004).]

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