FightingArts Estore
Pressure Points
From a medical professional, straight facts on where and how to hit that can save your life.
Stretching
Limber or not, anyone can add height and speed to their kicks with this method.
Calligraphy
For yourself or as a gift, calligraphy is special, unique and lasting.
Karate Uniforms
Look your best. Max snap. low cost & superior crafted: “Peak Performance Gold” 16 oz uniforms.

MOTOBU
Classic book translation. Hard to find. Not in stores.
Who's Online
0 registered (), 42 Guests and 2 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
BUJU, Pilsungkarate, ALF, old1, Leonar
22928 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Ronin1966 3
futsaowingchun 2
ergees 2
GojuRyuboy13 2
cxt 1
October
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
New Topics
I spy kata bunkai..
by GojuRyuboy13
10/29/14 08:28 AM
Judo 2014 World Championships Juniors: The Gallery
by ergees
10/25/14 04:53 PM
The Classic Pak Sao drill
by futsaowingchun
10/20/14 10:32 AM
wing chun kicks and knees
by futsaowingchun
10/09/14 12:55 AM
2014 European Championships Juniors: the Gallery
by ergees
10/05/14 10:56 AM
Living a full life violence free...
by GojuRyuboy13
09/25/14 08:50 AM
An open letter to bunkai researchers...
by Bartfast
08/05/14 04:18 PM
The Karate punch
by Matakiant
10/30/13 07:41 AM
Leo's Judo Journal
by Leo_E_49
01/24/12 02:58 AM
** Introduce Yourself! **
by
05/13/07 08:02 AM
Recent Posts
The Karate punch
by Matakiant
10/29/14 10:01 PM
I spy kata bunkai..
by GojuRyuboy13
10/29/14 08:28 AM
Judo 2014 World Championships Juniors: The Gallery
by ergees
10/25/14 04:53 PM
Living a full life violence free...
by GojuRyuboy13
10/22/14 07:20 AM
The Classic Pak Sao drill
by futsaowingchun
10/20/14 10:32 AM
Leo's Judo Journal
by swordy
10/11/14 09:21 AM
wing chun kicks and knees
by futsaowingchun
10/09/14 12:55 AM
An open letter to bunkai researchers...
by Ronin1966
10/08/14 09:22 PM
2014 European Championships Juniors: the Gallery
by ergees
10/05/14 10:56 AM
** Introduce Yourself! **
by AndyLA
10/04/14 10:20 AM
Forum Stats
22928 Members
36 Forums
35584 Topics
432513 Posts

Max Online: 424 @ 09/24/13 10:38 PM
Topic Options
#134627 - 03/14/05 07:45 AM Technique Efficiency
rrbraxton Offline
Member

Registered: 02/24/03
Posts: 34
Loc: Oxford,Michigan,USA
I need assist in understanding how to make (traditional ju-jutsu) grappling techniques work more effectively on a much larger opponent. Say for example a 185lb man vs an attacker thats near the 285-300 mark. I understand the effectiveness of "atemi" and the point of "happo no Kuzushi". It seems with a stronger or more larger person throwing or takedown seem much more difficult...Is this due to the fact that my opponent knows my that my "atemi" is not coming full force..or is it during practice that my attacker can effectively resist because he much bigger and stronger and able to resist? Or is that just some techniques do not work on bigger opponents?
Your responses are appreciated.
Respectfully...
RB

Top
#134628 - 03/14/05 05:51 PM Re: Technique Efficiency
Anonymous
Unregistered


I think the answer lies in more practice... [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

But, yes, some techniques will not work, or are harder to apply on a larger person. E.g. o-goshi. If done the "traditional" way, you will find it very hard to load a 300lb person on the small of your back. You would have to adapt the technique somewhat.

Top
#134629 - 05/10/05 01:58 AM Re: Technique Efficiency [Re: rrbraxton]
Naome_na_Hoiche Offline
Newbie

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 6
I am not to familiar with ju-jitsu but this may help.
- Begin with a quick Ippon 12 strike to the lower abdomen (where the bottom of his rib cage meets only flesh) on his dominant side, quickly begin to apply the Koto wrist technique (but do not follow all the way through) Use it to pull him forward and off balance. Then apply basic physics by steping beside and slightly behind him, placing your centre of gravity above and behind his. This should allow you to bring him down by sort of "falling" then apply a basic submissive grapple. -
Strength is good but it can easily be countered with speed. This combination (if applied accurately and quickly) might catch him off guard and weaken him, allowing a submissive grapple to be much easier to apply.

Hope this helps.
_________________________
There's no place like this place near this place so this is THE place.

Top
#134630 - 05/10/05 02:25 AM Re: Technique Efficiency [Re: rrbraxton]
eyrie Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 12/28/04
Posts: 3106
Loc: QLD, Australia
Yes, some do, some don't. But I think the main difficulty is that you are trying to apply a technique "statically", i.e. uke is just standing there waiting for you to execute the technique. This is what we call "learning mode". Unfortunately, there has to be some level of cooperation from uke when in this mode. So uke must react to a *fake* atemi to the face, as if you were really intending to hit. Unfortunately, most people (black belts included) just stand there and blink at you - expecting you to hurt them and therefore *make* them move. We call this "practice mode", where you already know the basic technical movement and are practicing on your timing and execution.

Ideally, you'd want to get to "training mode", where you both know the technique and can feel the instant either of you resist, change direction, or change attack. This means that uke is attacking properly, and prepared to either take the ukemi or execute a counter, or reverse the technique.

Never get these 3 modes confused.

Top


Moderator:  Cord, MattJ, Reiki, tkd_high_green 




Action Ads
1.5 Million Plus Page Views
Monthly
Only $89
Details

Stun Guns
Variety of stun gun devices for your protection

Buy Pepper Spray
Worry about your family when you’re not around? Visit us today to protect everything you value.

Koryu.com
Accurate information on the ancient martial traditions of the Japanese samurai

C2 Taser
Protect yourself and loved ones from CRIME with the latest C2 Taser citizen model. Very effective.

 

 



Unbreakable Unbrella

krav maga