In response to mr v i think if you have a read through the thread you will find that i have recieved little info for what i have posted.

and to mr harding i see that you have to hide behind mr v's comments, i have not and would not bring into question anyones martial abilities because we are all different. you don't know me so why bad mouth my martial arts ability. i feel anyone that trains hard deserves to be respected in any style of ma, so stop lowering the tone and insulting things you should not be attacking.

sit behind your keyboard playing the little games you so enjoy. I guess everyone needs something to fill the time. quote

takes one to know one don't you think.

if you do have a question k harding then please ask it? i will do my best to answer it.


Black-Mask

4 pages and 140 posts and still nothing but smoke and evasion, incredible eh?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bossman:
4 pages and 140 posts and still nothing but smoke and evasion, incredible eh?[/QUOTE]

I know.

Someone's got to pay them a visit.

JohnL

black mask,

apologies - by Kurama I meant Kamakura - I am reading about the Training of Ueshiba’s students in the Kurama mountains at the moment - got a bit mixed up!

As for the information regarding the battle of Yoritomo hill (which I also believe mr Dalane calls Crickley Hill In Gloucestershire for some strange reason!)

I do not know of any such battle although i am no historian - the best place to check would be the 'samurai source book' as this has every battle in Japanese history pretty much.

Regarding Yoritomo hill - i do not think there is a hill called this in Kamakura - there is the tomb of Yoritomo Minamoto i think which is located on a slight hill among some temples. These temples run kinder gardens in their grounds but no martial arts.

Maybe this is what you mean by Yoritomo Hill - the site of Yoritomos grave??

As for Kashima Bridge? Not heard of this either I am affraid - there is a sword school called Kashima Shinto Ryu - which was founded around the time period you are talking about but not in Kamakura as far as i know. Also it bears little / no resemblance to the style practiced by the BAMA so I do not believe your style is related.

The year your talking about is the year before the founding of the Tokugawa Shogunate – most battles of this period are quite easily traceable – you should be able to find the battle and the samurai very easily.

[QUOTE] Ieyasu's army triumphed at the battle of Sekigahara in 1600. He established his headquarters at Edo (now Tokyo), where he kept the warlords who backed him busy building the largest castle in the world. In 1603 the powerless emperor bestowed the title shogun on Ieyasu based on a questionable descent from the Minamoto family. [/QUOTE]

cheers

I have attempted to research the background of the financials of the BAMA - after "the truth" caught my interest with his/her post on the income that the BAMA is generating.

"Bushido Academy of Martial Arts" is an unincorporated company in the UK - No. UC3115984.

An unincorporated company is usually what's termed as a "sole-trader" i.e. a company with one key individual. The registered company address is Newburn Crescent, Swindon. Can anyone confirm whether this is Mr Delane's home or dojo?

Unincorporated companies do not have to present their Reports and Accounts to public scrutiny. All they have to do is satisfy the Inland Revenue that they are paying the requisite income tax, and neither evading tax nor laundering money. Income tax information is not available for public scrutiny.

A search for a director called Peter Delane brought up one dissolved partnership registered to the postcode GL14 1LR (Gloucestershire)- it wil cost £9.40 to access any details.

Hi All,

just for those of you who want finacial info on the BAMA the structure works like this.

student pays fifteen pounds.

this money then goes to the instructor.
but, when the instructor has a student which gets to shodan he has £10 and the shodan get £5 for every student taught.

now back to the main instructor, he gets a franchise which in turn will cost £30 a week. which goes to master chusan.

now also you pay £100 a month for your training sessions at delane academy.

well with all the black belt training
what a nice earner.

plus for extra outlay you get all the weekend courses at £150 per person and £30 for normal seminar and £60 for master chusan seminars and still get clobbard for grading fee's, and you still have to buy your own obi.

Now newburn cresent is where the swindon dojo hq was but has moved to kembrey prk.

master chusan lives just out side of gloucester.
so a dojo yes apart of many throughout the uk but his home NO.

Middleway - i have had no luck at all finding anything he descibes which bothers me some what, i know i keep coming back to it but the stage hypnosis bothers me a hell of alot to.
is there anyway you can talk to your ex BAMA instructors to see if they have any info on where he got his philosophy from.
Thanks again for your help.

Black-Mask

Blackmask,

I have spoken to a few guys at length. They all concure that the majority of the history told by Mr Dalane is false. I am sorry to say this but i think they are right. John alexander seems to be the main and only source of the majority of the Bushido style.

The whole ethos of the school seems to revolve around control of students - through Supposed 'Zen' classes, Through the talk of owing an unpayable dept to your instuctor, through samurai code rubbish, most of which isnt true!

It keeps students anyway.

Mr Dalane was a stage hypnotist for a while and is into magic and things like that - he has used his hypnotist and suggestive skills to great effect - when the 'Master' gives you some information you believe him dont you. problem being - he isnt a master! and has little history.

think about it - you have been with the school for nine years and dont know the truth - i have been to schools where the history and lineage is made clear on the first day!!! This is some sortta difference!

Regards

I would like to add that I was originally having a one hour lesson for £15. I was keen to do more, so I started doing a two hour lesson for £30. A couple of months after doing this, I was told that another student who was at the same level as me would be joining me for the two hour lesson. The thing is we were both still paying £30 each for a two hour lesson. These instructors are making a lot out of people who have a genuine interest in becoming a good martial artist. I may have posted previously and mentioned that I too was fed the "repay the unpayable debt and become an instructor" line.

I think it would be interesting to pay the £9 and find out about the dissolved partnership that P. Delane was involved with. How do you go about doing that?

Paul.

HI, I've been following the posts and I have a question. I know this will make me one of the unwashed masses, however,
what is the exchange rate for a POUND to american dollars? also, is that symbol before an indicated amount of currency a symbol for a POUND?
Thanks for any help, it would help me understand the expensiveness of the classes everybody is talking about.
Kell (not a GIRL, btw, LOL)

Hi Hunterkell,

The £ symbol is for the British Pound. Currently the exchange rate from UK pound to US dollar is: 1.79