Hi all,
Just to keep things going on the subject of the BAMA I have answers to your questions.
after reading all through the thread I felt the need to jump in and help you all out.

Now in return for this seemingly priceless info I need your help.
I can give you a brief history lay out,
names,places and other bits.
the only thing i need your help with is to find where the philosophy came from.

The things that i'm interested in knowing are topics such as concepts of:-
7 animals- using animal characteristics such as an owl to class an individual as studies or knowledgable.
air manipulation.
fourth dimension.
shoguy-the art of knowing without knowing.

if you guys can dig anything up I would be grateful and then I will reply with the other info I have.

Black-Mask

JKD last resort


to me JKD is my last resort in fighting. its in a fight where u feel uncomfortable an begin to dout the outcome that JKD shows potential in this situation. in that moment you freeze, you may be beaten so now u have ego. now you are unbalanced in mind body spirit. an balanced in your mechanical abilities as a martial artist. like that is an that is not or concisously unconcis. you us JKD to learn to balance the unbalance at the same time unbalanceing the balance the the balance is still balanced an the unbalanced is still unbalanced . Beat Yourself, Beat ur fears, Beat you enemy. kindof like my view of how a fictional Wizard does hes phenomal magic. you have 2 forces good and evil. you are awed by the wizard an afraid because his mastery of the powers of good an evil. in one hand is evil, in one hand is good. changing places as evil becomes good an good evil to make 1 form that is visable in the hand of the wizard who does not chose sides which u would say he is netural but he is not like an Atom = neurton proton electron you have a negative postive neutral but all make 1 an make many many materials gasses wood life everything that IS. you either understand my concept or u dont.

Black-Mask aka Troll dont bite guys

Unfortunately I did not have the page stored in my history folder so I could not get the pricing information that thetruth posted.

I have to say this is your one chance and you dis me. I'm new to this site and felt you could do with my help as I yours.

just as a good faith gesture here is abit of info to get you started.

Being an instructor for the bushido academy of martial arts for 9 years now, i have been able to learn alot about the schools origins.

it would seem the other instructors from the school are reluctent to help but hey
i have my own questions that i want answering to.

master shugosan aka murray bruton.
for the schools symbol have a look at the album cover by jade warrior.

if you still think i'm playing thats fine but i don't have to help you at all.

Black-Mask


[This message has been edited by Black-Mask (edited 08-25-2004).]

Black-mask,

I can see what you mean about the logo,
http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior/

please tell us more......

Hi angelwolfone,
I'm glad someone has faith.
In my first post I asked if anyone could help me find out about some philosophy origins, has anyone had any luck?

Master Chusan aka Pete delane had changed his name to p delane at an early age around 17ish, what his first name was no-one knows and i doubt you'd ever find out.
He was a great guitarist i believe and was a session guitarist hence thats where he got the symbol for bushido. (he worked on the album). i've looked on the jade warrior stuff but had no luck so p delane maybe an alias who knows.

for anymore info please help find what i'm looking for.
thankyou

Black-Mask

black mask,

regarding your questions on the following.

[QUOTE]The things that i'm interested in knowing are topics such as concepts of:-
7 animals- using animal characteristics such as an owl to class an individual as studies or knowledgable.
air manipulation.
fourth dimension.
shoguy-the art of knowing without knowing.[/QUOTE]

Ok 7 animals. This is not present in any Japanese Martial system for classifying grade or ability. the japanese traditional systems use what are known as Mokuroku or certificates to be awarded as a student progresses. Japan was far more formal than china where animal classification was often prevolent but generally atributed to forms or styles not to individual achievement. I have never heard of this in 17 years as a traditional Martial artists under masters in Japan, china & Taiwan.

Air manipulation. This is also not involved in the Martial arts of any country as far as i know - appart from certain systems of Silat or tibetan Lung Ta where wind gods / spirits are worshiped to aid the prctitioner - I believe that this is often used in Stage Hypnotism (By the way - in case you didnt know Dalane used to be a stage hypnotist!)

shoguy - hmmm - can you give me the translation for this - i have never heard of this word in Japanese?? doesnt seem to make any sence.

Fourth Dimension - ok are we still talking martial arts here or would you like me to talk about quantum physics - either would be fine.

As for dalane being a session guitarist for Jade warrior - the image on the album is in fact a readily available Clip art peice - i have a copy if you would like me to post it?

Now - for some history of your school ....

I would like to say thankyou for for your help but the things i wrote about are teachings by the bushido school.

I have an understanding of them but want to know where they came from, i don't beleive
that this stuff comes from a screwed up mind it is real stuff maybe under different names but is being taught.

as for the symbol you should look to who owns the rights to it. clip art maybe but i could say that about the visa or mastercard symbol but hey you must know more than me!!!!

I have given you loads to go on but in return i get very little, please try harder.

this is the last bit of info i will give until you dig some good info up for me.

P delane went to japan around the ages of 17 - 19 and there met a japanese martial arts teacher as i believe his was master usaka. as i was told it was a sword school in kamakura. around 1970's. i have no name for the school but it was very small.

please dig into that.

Black-Mask

So Pete Delane goes to Japan for two years and is allowed to call himself Grandmaster Chusan, how after two years is he allowed to refer to himself as a Grandmaster? Please could you explain why he calls himself Chusan? He is not Japanese so could you provide an explanation into that?

Also, my ex BAMA instructor told me that he went to Japan "on and off" over two years so it doesn't even sound to me like he had an kind of permanent residency during that period of his life.

In case I didn't mention it before, whenever I asked questions on the origins of the school and Pete Delane, my instructor was very evasive. Also, I was told that Ken Kai Ryu was the art of cutting, as opposed to Iaido (the art of drawing), although I don't know the name I already thought there was an art of cutting.

Kaine26