the universe is made of waves (energy) wether this be light waves, sound waves matter waves or many of the other forms of waves it is what makes all that we see hear taste and touch. many things can concentrate these waves (lasers, crystals, magnetic feilds) so why not the human mindbody. i beleive chi is in essence the concentration of all the inert energy surrounding us and can have unlimited potential.

i beleive also that internal martial arts have a lot to offer even those that find it difficult to beleive in chi because it also teaches awarness of the body ,increasing its strength, through better co ordination of movements, stronger impulses to the muscles and control of the circulations of the body

Why oh why is it that the marial arts attrect such a collection of people willing and wanting to believe that in nonsense like the indefinable, inexplicable chi?

There is nothing, repeat, nothing cited here as examples of chi that cannot be explained through practised body mechanics.

I see it all the time - people who say "I cant explain it, it must be experienced" or throw some ridiculous zen proverb at you to try and cover up the fact that they dont understand it themselves.

It sickens me.

G

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jamoni:
"'ve flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field controls my destiny."
"Hokey religions, and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side."
How can you guys argue with Han Solo? He made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs, fer Pete's sake![/QUOTE]

I'll argue with him! Parsecs are measures of DISTANCE (about 3.26 light years), not time! So it's like bragging about winning a distance race in less than 12 feet.

But, let me jump in on the side of JohnL & Han Solo. KI? Maybe. But give me that blaster of a right hand punch.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chen Zen:
Also just because you havent seen it or felt it doesnt mean it isnt there. God is the greatest example of this.[/QUOTE]

I don't believe in God. However I do believe in life force. Ki is essentially just another term for the words 'life force'.

hey JohnL, check out the "Tao of Physics" by Fritjof Capra. he put's forward some interesting ideas. although to a thorough skeptic it still may be unconvincing.

matt

Reiki I have tried your experiment and I felt force pushing my hands a pasrt. Strange, because when I was little I "use" to make my hands give off heat? At least my mother use to tell me this, is this chi? I have never really heard of it until this thread.

JohnL you do have a point in proving it but they also have points. At this point I am in the middle. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif[/IMG]

Plus that site with moving "objects" I have studied magic with a magician (fake magic illusions!!!!). I know how to mimmic what they have done with (magic term) frog hair in public. I have even seen my teacher do up close although I have not done it my self. SO these VIDS could be shot down.

But I dont deny feeling something and would like to explore this further. Could you e-mail me Reiki at Julayne4@aol.com or someone that can tell me where to start except for the forum already stated.

Thanks.Julayne [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif[/IMG]