JohnL,you beleive that chi or ki doesn't exist. If it really didn't exist then why have people who have taken chi seriously and made an effort to learn how to use it, been successful in doing so. Just do as Reiki suggested and get a reiki treatment.

The thing is stillwater is that people used to believe in Chi a thousand years ago but do not now. Just like people believed the world was flat a thousand years ago. Whereas no one new what radiation was a thousand years ago, they do now.

By the way if soeone started blabbering about microwaves a thousand years ago without any scientific evidence then they are crazy.

Bruce Lee

Why do so many kids believe in Santa Clause?

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Just to throw gas on the fire-kirlian photography(discovered in 1939-not recent or hi-tech) has been proven to be a hoax.
Pointing to that as proof is not doing yourself a favor.

What amazes me about reiki followers,chi believers is the garbage you guys accept as evidence.The fuzzy logic displayed by websites,books, etc that some of you point out.Stuff that a 5 year old can see thru or stuff that was disproven 100 years ago.There seems to be no logical questioning or seeking outside sources for verification of claims made by certain people. This leads me to believe this is your religion-not a logical belief.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bruce Lee:
JohnL,you beleive that chi or ki doesn't exist. If it really didn't exist then why have people who have taken chi seriously and made an effort to learn how to use it, been successful in doing so. Just do as Reiki suggested and get a reiki treatment.[/QUOTE]

I haven't said that I don't belive that Chi/ki exists, just that I want it proven.

JohnL

why?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Reiki:
why?
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Because it's there!

Or so the chi pushers say [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG]

Merry Xmas.

JohnL

Hi im really interested in ki.
I want to learn it, but not abuse it.
Can you please send me an e-mail giving me some starting exrcises. I'm a begginer, but i dont know where to begin.

Please write back at Mony1234ishere@yahoo.com

check out the posts in the energy arts and meditation sections.

u will find all u need there. If not, use google or another search engine for specifics.

TO REIKI!!!

Hi im looking for answers.
Can you tell me how to do better ki.
I just beggan, I need a few pointers.
Esspecially on the ki ball and on training and breathing.
Please reply.

Thank you

It seems to me that John's theory is that there is no such thing as chi, and unless we can prove what he perceives to be chi exists, then there is no such thing as what we experience as chi, even though the two things are not the same. Its as if I am telling him there are such things as cats, and he won't believe in cats until I show him an elephant.