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#13089 - 10/25/03 06:18 PM Re: Weight lifting help!
Tkdstreetfighter88 Offline
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Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 138
Loc: Ocala, Fl, USA
Yo student is 100% correct
Size does not sacrifice speed by all means it increases it.
Stretching is very important though.
Stretch heavily before you start pumping iron

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#13090 - 10/25/03 06:50 PM Re: Weight lifting help!
Yoseikan Student Offline
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Registered: 05/02/03
Posts: 1166
Loc: UK
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ender:
Lol, thanks, all of you.

However, I also consulted my Senpei, and he advised against my wieght training at all for a number of reasons.

1) I am 16 and am not finished growing.
2) By hardening my body with weights, I will lose or counteract my ability to relax when I need to (in a fight for instance) at this point.

He doesn't recommend weight training until Nidan (second degree black) when people are fully developed and can relax.
[/QUOTE]

I agree completely with number 1. I'd add that theres no harm in trying the body weight exercises though (dips, squats, pressups, chinups, situps, leg raises). Its so much easier to work on technique if you're fit and strong.

Regarding number 2 I would have to say that sounds like nonsense to me. No disrespect Ender, but it doesn't hold with what I have been taught/read/learnt.

Alec.


[This message has been edited by Yoseikan Student (edited 10-25-2003).]

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#13091 - 10/26/03 06:54 AM Re: Weight lifting help!
Ender Offline
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Registered: 04/29/03
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Be that as it may, I feel obliged to go with what my Senpei instructs. He has never led me wrong before, and all his advice given to me in the past has been worthwhile.

However, I intend to have a more indepth conversation with him about this on monday.

I will get back to you with the results.

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#13092 - 10/26/03 03:09 PM Re: Weight lifting help!
medulanet Offline
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Registered: 09/03/03
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Weight training does not prevent you from being able to relax. In fact when done properly it will do just the opposite. When you develop your muscles properly you will gain control of them and be able to contract and relax them at will. It is weak muscles that tighten up when you do not want them to.

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#13093 - 10/27/03 05:58 AM Re: Weight lifting help!
UKfightfreak Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
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I again with everybody else agree with point 1 (a point which I have made a few times before anyway - and actaully forgot you were young).

As for point 2, I would like to know where your sensei found this information, I would be interested to read it to see a different point of view. Could you ask him for references?

I would look at Matt Furey's stuff for body weight if you are interested in strenth and power just using your bodyweight (I mean most people doing weights can't perform 10 handstand pressups!)

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#13094 - 10/27/03 11:49 AM Re: Weight lifting help!
ChangLab Offline
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Registered: 06/02/03
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Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
I feel I must add a few things here
(regardless of weather you decide to "lift" or not Ender)
First I've found that FORM IS EVERYTHING
when it comes to weightlifting.
have someone show you how to lift properly
alot of people injure themselvs way to often
by lifting in "bad form" or using too much weight too early.
much like self defence weight lifting requires some instruction.
just going through the motions isn't enough or worse dangerous to your ligaments tendons and the muscles themselvs.
one small peice of advice is to use a 5 count when lifting
"one...two...three...(the weight should be at the top of the rep)hold it for a 1/2 count
and four... five and the weight should be at the low end of the rep
that will help you achieve "slow controlled movement" and maximise your workout.

good luck

Mark

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#13095 - 10/27/03 03:38 PM Re: Weight lifting help!
Jag Offline
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Registered: 10/11/03
Posts: 68
Loc: Yulee, FL, US
Training: If that is you...then great job. It takes a lot of work and dedication to look like that. I have been weight training for 3 years myself. Personal trainer...

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#13096 - 10/27/03 03:41 PM Re: Weight lifting help!
Ender Offline
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Registered: 04/29/03
Posts: 2253
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
I do believe he was kidding, Jag.

LoL.

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#13097 - 10/30/03 01:43 PM Re: Weight lifting help!
Jag Offline
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Registered: 10/11/03
Posts: 68
Loc: Yulee, FL, US
ohh...sorry. I am used to seeing built bodies. Heading to Atlanta for this years GNC Show of Strength next weekend. I can't wait.

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#13098 - 10/30/03 05:07 PM Re: Weight lifting help!
Raven Offline
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Registered: 04/13/03
Posts: 549
Loc: Sin City
WOW........i never knew the world of weight trainers was so contradicting from one another, I'm reading some other stuff on other sites and some say steroids are good other say its bad( from what i've heard, i think they're bad...but i don't know much about them to give a definite opinion) wow...just wow

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