What the difference(s) between Aikido and Aiki-Jitsu?

Maybe you should have asked this before telling everyone how Aikido is a combat art and how it was used in the wars!

Good question, shotokan. In a nutshell, aiki jujutsu is an old style of classical martial arts that originated in Japan during its feudal period. It was used by some samurai as a sort of back-up art if ever they lost their primary weapons in battle. It is contemporary to, and analogous with, ju jutsu. The most famous school is Daito ryu aiki jujutsu.

Aikido is a modern offshoot of Daito ryu aiki jujutsu and other classical Japanese martial arts, developed by Morihei Ueshiba (often called O'sesnsei by aikido practitioners) in a period around the second world war.

It is well known for the many variants of the art that O'sensei taught. Earlier styles, pre war, tend to more robust and more directly concerned with self defence. Later styles are more esoteric and tend to have more "showy" techniques.

Obviously aiki ju jutsu is a "jutsu" art, which means pretty much that it is concerned only with the end result, your opponent face down in the dirt no longer a threat to you. Aikido, being a "do" is more concerned withj self improvemnet through training, it is much more technically demanding tha aiki jujutsu.

Whether either, none or both are effective for self defence is a matter of opinion. I hold dan grades in both so obviously my opinion is a little ( [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]) bias.

Budo

[This message has been edited by Cato (edited 08-07-2003).]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by senseilou:
Maybe you should have asked this before telling everyone how Aikido is a combat art and how it was used in the wars![/QUOTE]

This is a alittle kids argument. However I will take time to say that I know what Aikido is. This has nothing to do with Aikido being effective or not.

Oh dear...here we go again.

LOL...forget Comedy Central, this is priceless.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by immrtldragon:
LOL...forget Comedy Central, this is priceless.[/QUOTE]

The situation is simple I know one thing but I do not know the other. How can I compare one thing (Aikido) to another (Aiki Jutsu) when I do not know what Aiki Jutsu is. This was not meant to be an argument it was a question? I am seeking knowledge from thoses that are mature enough to give.

[This message has been edited by Shotokan (edited 08-11-2003).]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shotokan:
The situation is simple I know one thing but I do not know the other. How can I compare one thing (Aikido) to another (Aiki Jutsu) when I do not know what Aiki Jutsu is. This was not meant to be an argument it was a question? I am seeking knowledge from thoses that are mature enough to give.

My ignorance of Aiki Jutsu does not in anyway relate or interfere with my arguments on the effectiveness of Aikido (something I know).

Do not let your emotions flow from one topic to the next our your opinions will be worthless.

My teachers' teacher once said... "There are no superior styles. Only superior teachers."

I agree lets drop this petty argument and get back to why we all joined this group... to grow, absorb and give knowledge to one another. And besides everyone knows Shotokan has no idea what hell is going on anyway... LMAO... sorry man I couldn't resist. Just kidding. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

My best,

Raul

I think if someone holds their hands up and says they don't know something, and then asks for an explanantion we should applaud them for it. Plenty of people have little idea of the difference between these two similar styles, but most just keep quiet about their lack of knowledge and bluff their way through (I know I do [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG] ). We are all here to learn, I think....how can we if nobody ever asks a question?

Budo