FightingArts Estore
Pressure Points
From a medical professional, straight facts on where and how to hit that can save your life.
Stretching
Limber or not, anyone can add height and speed to their kicks with this method.
Calligraphy
For yourself or as a gift, calligraphy is special, unique and lasting.
Karate Uniforms
Look your best. Max snap. low cost & superior crafted: “Peak Performance Gold” 16 oz uniforms.

MOTOBU
Classic book translation. Hard to find. Not in stores.
Who's Online
0 registered (), 56 Guests and 1 Spider online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
MAWomanTCC, Manu, wlh001, HonestyM57, Sanda_fan
23231 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
MAWomanTCC 2
Zombie Zero 2
October
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31
New Topics
Martial Arts by Laura Bonthuis Chen Taijiquan
by MAWomanTCC
10/05/19 03:43 AM
** Introduce Yourself! **
by
05/13/07 08:02 AM
Recent Posts
Martial Arts by Laura Bonthuis Chen Taijiquan
by Zombie Zero
10/18/19 05:30 PM
** Introduce Yourself! **
by Zombie Zero
10/18/19 05:29 PM
Forum Stats
23231 Members
36 Forums
35699 Topics
432764 Posts

Max Online: 424 @ 09/24/13 10:38 PM
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
#12465 - 10/12/03 08:32 AM Re: Forearm Conditioning
Bossman Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/25/03
Posts: 1785
Loc: Chatham Kent UK
[QUOTE]Originally posted by joesixpack:
Neither is shin conditioning. But it helps you fight.[/QUOTE]

"Fight" is a big term. It might help if you're a Thai boxer but it's of little use in the street.

Steve

Top
#12466 - 10/12/03 10:57 AM Re: Forearm Conditioning
Ender Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 04/29/03
Posts: 2253
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Bossman, I condition my forearms and I can still feel fine.

I am not talking about deadening the nerves (if thats what Im doing, it isnt working, because I can still feel them fine).

What I am doing is hardening the bone and strengthening the muscle.

As for shin and fore arm conditioning applicable on the street, I beg to differ. Eventually I'll be able to break somones arm when they punch (with a block). I wont even need to throw a punch to end a fight.

Top
#12467 - 10/12/03 12:42 PM Re: Forearm Conditioning
ninja-raiden Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 03/13/03
Posts: 922
I was at my friend's house, when my friend's brother full contactact sparred with his friend; a 3rd degree blackbelt in wushu.

My friend's brother kept trying to hit this guy but his blocks were just unstoppable....

Top
#12468 - 10/13/03 04:14 AM Re: Forearm Conditioning
Bossman Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/25/03
Posts: 1785
Loc: Chatham Kent UK
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ender:
Bossman, I condition my forearms and I can still feel fine.

I am not talking about deadening the nerves (if thats what Im doing, it isnt working, because I can still feel them fine).

What I am doing is hardening the bone and strengthening the muscle.

As for shin and fore arm conditioning applicable on the street, I beg to differ. Eventually I'll be able to break somones arm when they punch (with a block). I wont even need to throw a punch to end a fight.
[/QUOTE]

If you want to strengthen the muscles then train them, the bones will also get stronger over a period of time training. Weapons training or weights will do that productively. Continually hitting them will stop the flow of new blood cells from the bone.

I've taught in the security industry for over 30 years and if I took only a handful of my students, their fight record would be in the thousands - and no one has ever broken an arm with a block or heard of someone doing so. All the experienced guys work on sensitising and using curves spirals and circles on touch.

In the Dojo students might stop when their arms are hurt, when the adrenalins up for real and if they're on drugs or alcohol they won't even feel it.

Steve

Top
#12469 - 10/13/03 08:21 AM Re: Forearm Conditioning
JohnL Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 4309
Loc: NY, NY, USA
Smacking forearms and shins with opponents and inanimate objects may appeal to themacho image you are trying to create but will do little to improve your abilities as a fighter.

When someone attacks me, I consider a good block as one that redirects the attack so that it isn't going to hit me done softly enough so that my opponent doesn't realize it's been redirected untill it's too late.

JohnL

Top
#12470 - 10/13/03 06:59 PM Re: Forearm Conditioning
joesixpack Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 02/04/02
Posts: 2282
Loc: Australia
And of course you use very smooth hand movements to block thigh kicks and punches to your heart, and your foreamrs never bruise, and your shins have impeccable control over your opponent.

And no one you has fought hasn't had the kyokushin tactic of attacking the limbs to break down the body?

Um, no?

I don't like using my arms as riot shields, but sometimes it is all that is available or part of a bigger manouvere. When I do check thigh kicks, I do try to redirect it, upset their balance, but my shin HAS to contact with theirs.

Better them than me.

Got any suggestions to checking thigh kicks, other than using the shin?

A check with a conditioned shin on an unconditioned one can end the fight. Invaluable.

Top
#12471 - 10/13/03 10:42 PM Re: Forearm Conditioning
joesixpack Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 02/04/02
Posts: 2282
Loc: Australia
Don't get me wrong, I think small circular movements to redirect punching, and so on, and then attacking vigourously is a superb method of self defense. Yielding then letting the hard rain commence. It is one thing I am working on at the moment.

But how do you defend against thigh kicks, or fighters who attack the limbs?

Top
#12472 - 10/14/03 11:29 AM Re: Forearm Conditioning
Bossman Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/25/03
Posts: 1785
Loc: Chatham Kent UK
Many of my friends are from Kyokushin, Steve Arniel is a personal friend of mine, I do a lot of work with Dennis Jones ex Kyokushin and 23 yrs on the doors - read all the articles on this link:
http://www.shikon.com/article_links.asp?typ=AG1003

And Dennis will answer a lot of the questions you have.

There is always a curve on any movement and you simply match it, then there is no forceful collision. Original Kyokushin worked on this premise, as did the late Ashihara who broke away from Kyokushin. Thigh kicks are usually met with a circular motion of the leg disrupting the kickers balance and then destroying the kickers knee with the same or other leg.

Hope this helps.

Steve

Top
#12473 - 10/14/03 03:24 PM Re: Forearm Conditioning
malanr Offline
Member

Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 66
Loc: IN USA
He threw a chudan soto uke (outside middle) block with his left arm, as I threw a reverse punch with my right hand. As soon as he made contact I lost all feeling my arm, and had my arm went blue and purple.


Ender,

have you studied pressure points at all? There are points on the arms that, when striked can cause the same effect. You might try to see if your sensi has knowledge about this also. Or, see if you can associate the bruise with the pressure points.

Just a thought.

PS. i agree with not trying to desensitize the forearm, just try to use the word deflect, instead of block. Also, In my opinion, anyone that tells you to use your forearm to block a kick is nuts. Just get out of the WAY!

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2






Action Ads
1.5 Million Plus Page Views
Monthly
Only $89
Details

Ryukyu Art
Artifacts from the Ryukyu Kingdom missing since WWII. Visit www.ShisaLion.Org to view pictures

Best Stun Guns
Self Defense Products-stun guns, pepper spray, tasers and more

Surveillance 4U
Complete surveillance systems for covert operations or secure installation security

Asylum Images
Book presents photo tour of the Trans-Allegany Lunatic Asylum. A must if you're going to take a ghost tour!

 



Unbreakable Unbrella

krav maga