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#121413 - 09/06/04 10:36 AM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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My instructor teaches his own style of taekwondo, and he includes grappling, and teaches us to aim for the joints, and chokes, etc

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#121414 - 09/17/04 11:40 PM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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every1 here is talking about taekwondo, but korean grappiling is acually hapkido, or aikido in japanese, does that solve the problem?

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#121415 - 09/23/04 12:03 AM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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taekwondo ....look at its name the art of hands and feet... not really grappling... bleh...

Anyways taekwondo is meant for fast blows... and as soon as u hit trust me get away.... hahah start circling around yur oponent again and then hit and retreat again.... but make sure yur kicks are low ..... theres a reason why they say the front snap kick is the most dangerouos kick..... think about it.... u kick straight to groin... people can die from that.... anyways... yeah taekwondos grapples arent anything like that of hapkido, all its takedowns are fast and decisie as well.. think of it as something like boxing.. boxers if they fight against a grappler they punch step back dodge whatever they try to do or maneuver away from their oponent again and then strike them from the side again and keep repeating.... well light weight boxres anyways

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#121416 - 09/26/04 05:11 PM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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Reaperblack,

[QUOTE]Originally posted by reaperblack:
grappling can be found in kalarypayutt which is one of the oldest martial arts. It has been practised in india for approximately 1000 years and it is where most modern styles descend from, via bhodydharma(sorry for the spelling) then china, then okinawa, Japan korea etc.[/QUOTE]

For the record: THE "SINGLE BIRTHPLACE FOR ALL MARTIAL ARTS" THEORY IS A LOAD OF CRAP!

Martial arts did not develop in one area--they most likely are the product of PARALLEL EVOLUTION. All this nonsense about all MA coming from India, being transplanted to China, and spreading to the rest of Asia from there is just really weak. What about Europe and Africa? How does the whole Bodhidharma theory explain the wrestling illustrations at Beni Hassan, which date from around 2000 B.C./B.C.E.? And no, the suggestion that the Indian stuff actually comes from Ancient Greece, via Alexander the Great's campaigns, isn't any more convincing.

[QUOTE]Greco roman wresling has been around for hundreds of years and it is nothing but grappling. Any lock that can be performed standing can be done on the ground.[/QUOTE]

Get your grappling history and wrestling rules straight--what we now call "Greco-Roman" wrestling is actually a French invention from the 19th century (that explains all the French terms that are used, like suplex, parterre, etc). Secondly, there are no submissions in Greco-Roman--the goal is to throw and pin the other guy. Only techniques above the waist can be utilized. This makes Greco-Roman very formidable from the clinch position.

Peace,

A_M_P



[This message has been edited by Armed_Man_Piker (edited 09-26-2004).]

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#121417 - 10/05/04 10:42 AM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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TKD was developed for farmers to combat armed cavalry. It is meant for a person on the ground to be able to unseat a person riding on horseback. Hence the flying, jumping, and spinning kicks. Not to mention that the legs are the longest and strongest weapon on the body!

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#121418 - 10/08/04 06:08 AM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by WiseTiger:
TKD was developed for farmers to combat armed cavalry. It is meant for a person on the ground to be able to unseat a person riding on horseback. Hence the flying, jumping, and spinning kicks. Not to mention that the legs are the longest and strongest weapon on the body![/QUOTE]

Another myth, I'd say.

For an unarmed farmer to try to deal with an armed horseman (and with flying kicks, no less) is, in itself, rather ludicrous.

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#121419 - 10/08/04 07:43 AM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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yeth, a near myth.

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#121420 - 10/08/04 08:57 AM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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Ouch!!

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#121421 - 10/08/04 09:10 AM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.

Know your art!

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#121422 - 10/08/04 09:43 AM Re: why teakwondo consists of little grappling
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by WiseTiger:
Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.

Know your art!
[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more completely with you. I also apologize for my comment. I hold history in high regard. Perhaps you could tell me what in year Koreas three kingdoms were unified? and under what King?. After that you could tell me what was the name of the buddist scholar who is credited with the developement of the "strict code " ?. After that perhaps we could go back to the question of Did General Choi lead or belong to any martial arts organizations before forming the ITF?. OR who was the President of Korea when
the name Tae Kwon Do established. Where did he go to college.In which university and country? What was his major? To what political Party did he belong?. What faith did he ascribe to?
Being an oldman theres nothing I enjoy more than tottering around the house or reading dusty books whilst sitting on my enlarged prostate.

Alex I'll Take TKD history for $500 please.

Phrased in the form of a question......

"Who" is being tested [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Sincerely
oldman



[This message has been edited by oldman (edited 10-08-2004).]

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