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#119443 - 08/22/03 12:58 AM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
kiwi Offline
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Srry John I wrote my last post without reading what you wrote...

Almost wish I hadn't [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

John where I come from people are happy to be doing a martial art. I am happy just being able to train and teach.

lol mate after reading you last post it seems someone is having a hard time accepting that a 15 year old is beating them in an argument.

Lets review your recent arguments [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

"Well whoop de doo!"

your going to get your ass whooped and...

your a pathetic, arrogant criminal

If you read my post before the entire club is covered by a good insurance plan, as I am at all times in the presence of an adult instructor, their is no problem with insurance.

who do you consider the big boys? I have competed at a national level,I have attended national seminars.

John what you said in your last post just prooves my point.

age isn't all that matters

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#119444 - 08/22/03 03:17 AM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
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Are instructors this young the norm in TKD? That's two we have on this forum now.
Sharon

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#119445 - 08/22/03 06:11 AM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
kiwi Offline
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Wadowoman

Instructors my age certainly arn't the norm, I believe I am the youngest instructor by a bit over 10 years (my organisation). It's funny having two young instructors in the same forum. More of an odd coincidence then a trend in TKD.

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#119446 - 08/23/03 12:54 AM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
perrinwolf Offline
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Wadowoman,

from what I have seen, here in the U.S. (it may be different down under) it is typcal for someone under 18 to be teaching. In TKD at least. Most other systems only allow "jr. black belts" to teach other children. (and I don't mean children to look down on Kiwi).

I will post what I feel pretty soon about this subject.

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#119447 - 08/23/03 05:55 AM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
kempo_jujitsu Offline
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Registered: 06/15/03
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In your organisation does your instructor test you? In mine only fourth degrees and above are allowed to test.
my instructor is a 4th dan lol
in DKI there is no such thing as a 1st or 2nd degree black belt instructor, in DKI you have to be at least a 3rd dan to even think about teaching without the supervision of your instructor, at his school.
to reach 3rd dan takes 9-10 years in DKI.
do you consider yourself high ranked?
i apologise for misunderstanding you about the chief instructor thing....why did he get it and not you if you are higher ranked?
oh by the way DKI is Dillman Karate International.

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#119448 - 08/23/03 07:00 PM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
kiwi Offline
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kempo

Kempo it's because he deals with the business side of things aswell as the instructing. Basicly he is a good martial artist aswell as being very competent with the business side of things (degree, and also runs his own business).

Well to reach 2nd dan took me 8 years. So I consider myself of reasonably high rank. It would be ideal if we had a fourth degree chief instructor, however unfortunately it is not possible.

Oh yes, he also has a degree in psychology which I think might please John.

[This message has been edited by kiwi (edited 08-23-2003).]

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#119449 - 08/23/03 07:19 PM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
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Registered: 06/29/03
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John L, i explained my predicament about young teaching, maybe you didnt read it clearly, or at all, becuase i think you still have the wrong impression.

kiwi, even though i am a young black belt, when i hear ten year old blackbelt, a red flag raises. but i dont judge until i see the person train, becuase the martial arts can differ indivdually greatly. most of the time, i dont even look at rank, i look at skill. ive seen 8 year old blue belts with more talent than 20 year old black belts, and i tend to hold more respect for that blue belt kid than the adult.

rank should be an accurate representation of skill despite age, but becuase money and trophies are often involved, it becomes misleading.

Kitten

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#119450 - 08/24/03 09:27 PM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
kempo_jujitsu Offline
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if you are under 18...and he is younger than you...i doubt he could get a degree in chewing bubble gum, let alone phychology....just where did he obtain this degree you claim he has?

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#119451 - 08/24/03 09:58 PM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
kiwi Offline
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He has been doing martial arts for less time then me, and so is younger in martial arts terms.

In reality he is 49.

Please read my posts carefully and make sure you understand [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Thankyou smittenkitten, that is exactly the point I am trying to get across.



[This message has been edited by kiwi (edited 08-24-2003).]

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#119452 - 08/25/03 12:13 AM Re: Ageism-Junior black belts
Isshin Dude Offline
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Registered: 07/06/03
Posts: 480
Loc: Knoxville Tennessee U.S.A
Kiwi,It's time to face the truth,& That's There's noway that you could be a cerified instuctor unless you're a product of a mcdojo, [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG]

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