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#118730 - 03/04/03 05:18 PM Re: on the roundhouse.
gojuTKDdude Offline
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Jamoni,

The side kick is good for linear attacks not for circular ones. If an opponent was facing you in a fighting stance it would not be possible to attack the ribs. The ball of the foot roundhouse when someone exposes their flank while throwing a punch. I dont see how a side could get in their with a side kick.

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#118731 - 03/04/03 07:03 PM Re: on the roundhouse.
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What I meant by the comment about breaking ribs is that I don't use roundhouses as power kicks, I use them like a jab, to set up other attacks, to distract, or to lower his mobility with leg strikes. I feel the instep blade fits this strategy better than the ball of foot. I feel arcing kicks are too easy to defend against if thrown high. A stop hit or block anywhere on the leg can stop the kick. I feel like I can stick a high front kick through his defense easier than a high round kick, and do more damage. Anyway, I don't throw high kicks much. And for a round kick to the thigh, knee, calf, or ankle, the instep makes sense.

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#118732 - 03/06/03 01:02 PM Re: on the roundhouse.
gojuTKDdude Offline
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Why limit yourself to just using a kick one way. One can generate alot of power with a roundhouse kick, Id say its my most powerful non spinning kick.

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#118733 - 03/06/03 03:58 PM Re: on the roundhouse.
Chen Zen Offline
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Are you serious? You're most powerful kick that is not spinning is roundhouse? What about side kick, front kick, back kick, crescent kick? My roundhouse is definately my weakest and used only to confuse or to setup for other attacks as is the case with most artist I know. If what you say is true then what is your secret to makeing the roundhouse a more powerful kick.

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#118734 - 03/07/03 06:05 AM Re: on the roundhouse.
UKfightfreak Offline
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I've seen to many bouts end with a knockout from a roundhouse to discredit it to the realms of little power.

Chen Zen - you might want to examine your hip rotation regarding power.

I do think it is difficult to get any power from a front leg roundhouse but a rear leg should and is a good power tool.

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#118735 - 03/07/03 11:43 AM Re: on the roundhouse.
gojuTKDdude Offline
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Id say that the roundhouse is even more powerful than the side kick and definiely more than the front kick. In order to generate power with those kicks, a thrust is required. This leaves the leg vulnerable to being caught. Not so with a roundhouse, the cirdular trajectory makes it hard to block and even harder to catch. Power is als generated in hip action and turning on the ball of the foot as opposed to a thrust.

It is extremely hard to throw a side kick without telegraphing it, I always enjoy when Im sparring against someone and he goes from a normal fighting stance to a completely linear stance. Hmmm I wonder what hes going to do next? Side kicks are extremely easy to block.

Im not saying that I dont use side or front, Im just saying the round is alot more versatile and dynamic. But there is a time and place for everything, let the circumstances be the guide.

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#118736 - 03/07/03 01:37 PM Re: on the roundhouse.
Chen Zen Offline
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I understand the concepts of hip rotation and turning on the balls of the feet. I also realize that a back leg roundhouse is going to be much more powerful. Roundhouse is my favorite technique and I use it more than most other techniques but as far as it being my most powerful technique...no. It isnt hard to knock someone out with it as it is usually targeted at the side of the head and temple area. However have you ever tried breaking techniques with a roundhouse? Compared to a side kick or front kick it lacks the power. Now side kicks are a little more predictable but if you use an opener they are less predictable. Such as a roundhouse to side kick. Or front kick to roundhouse to side kick.(Although it takes some balance). The chambering of the kicks make them more pewerful.

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#118737 - 03/07/03 06:10 PM Re: on the roundhouse.
Jamoni Offline
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I have to repeat, I believe in keeping kicks low and fast. It's a lot easier to hit someone's leg with a roundhouse than any other kick. So I use it that way. Roundhouse is my general purpose kick. I only use front or side kicks if a safe opening appears. I try to use my "weapons" to attack at the same level they are on, IE kicks to the legs, knees to the groin/thigh, punches and elbows to the head. I don't throw body blows too much because most fights don't last long enough for them to be telling.
Personally, I think my front kick is my strongest. I never feel "rooted" enough in a side kick to deliver a lot of power. When I throw a front kick, I feel a straight line of force from the ground foot to the kicking foot.

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#118738 - 03/07/03 06:48 PM Re: on the roundhouse.
Chen Zen Offline
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Wow! For once I agree with something Jamoni has said and that is that I feel that the front kick is my most powerful.

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#118739 - 03/08/03 08:24 PM Re: on the roundhouse.
Jamoni Offline
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What's not to agree with? I'm always right, aren't I? I mean, I'm smarter, I train harder, and my style is more badass than anyone else's.
(this is sarcasm, ladies and gentlemen)

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