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#118698 - 02/24/03 03:58 AM Re: forget sport:mad:
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Jamoni, I would argue that Poker is better for fighting strategy since you can't bluff in chess...

That's why America keeps getting over on Russia. They're tactitians who do not know how to call a bluff and don't know when to fold 'em and wait for the next hand.

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#118699 - 02/24/03 10:23 AM Re: forget sport:mad:
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Oddly Tae I agree. Also I think sometimes people should read the post more than once to realize whether or not you are attacking a system or a person. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

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#118700 - 02/24/03 10:49 AM Re: forget sport:mad:
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[QUOTE]I Dont know about taebot,But The system I WOuld attack, would be reality fighting. PS IN Reality fighting,As the opponet punches,He leads with his head,& That is a big mistake. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

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#118701 - 02/24/03 06:12 PM Re: forget sport:mad:
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Chen Zen, Who is attacking anything? Aren't we talking? I agree, actually, that it is better to train in an effective, realistic style. However, if a school IS a sport school, wouldn't you rather they put that on the sign, rather than fraudulently claim they are a self-defense school?
Taebot, you rock. Poker as a training tool for martial arts? Sweet.

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#118702 - 02/24/03 06:16 PM Re: forget sport:mad:
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This has been my point the whole time Jamoni. I really dont think the arts should even allow sport schools unless the teach the actual self defense and combat applications of the style.

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#118703 - 02/25/03 05:08 AM Re: forget sport:mad:
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One could esily argue that self-defense techniques should only be taught by law enforcement.

They are better trained.
They can instruct on the law.
They have first-hand knowlege of what works.
They can easily keep the bad element from learning.

In fact, it would be best to limit martial arts schools to only sport.

This is how the Chinese leaders think. They like to censor and direct rather than to let people be free to choose.

Some of you sound kinda Chinese...

...commie pinkos!

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#118704 - 02/25/03 12:50 PM Re: forget sport:mad:
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[QUOTE]I'm Not totalty against tourneyments.But The Karate ka should understand,That selfdefense is what he/she are there for.

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#118705 - 02/26/03 12:56 AM Re: forget sport:mad:
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I completely agree with chen... Tournament fighting helps you in almost no way... It helps to let you read your opponent, but it gives more trouble thatn its worth.
But this doesn't mean people shouldn't do it, It's just useless in the streets, still a bit of fun though...

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#118706 - 03/13/03 04:50 AM Re: forget sport:mad:
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Tournament fighting helps you in almost no way... It helps to let you read your opponent

Statement two does not logically follow from statement one hence your argument has failed to make any valid point.

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#118707 - 03/13/03 05:01 AM Re: forget sport:mad:
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And to think, Chen, you said I was rude and disrespectfull!!

What does it matter to you, me or anyone what someone else chooses to do? Does it effect our training? Will we be the ones getting a kicking when the brown stuff hits the whirly thing? No.

Tolerance. Surely that has to be the key. Live and let live. As Alexander Chase said "The peak of tolerance is most readily achieved by those who are not burdened with convictions". An open mind would be good.

Budo

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