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#118494 - 11/15/04 01:29 AM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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Why are there high kicks in TKD? Because it's an art. If you want to concentrate solely on practical self defense situations I was in a fight once where I nailed the aggressor with a reverse sidekick to the gut and then kicked him in the head with a hook kick. Any questions?

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#118495 - 11/19/04 02:33 PM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrHate:
Why are there high kicks in TKD? Because it's an art. If you want to concentrate solely on practical self defense situations I was in a fight once where I nailed the aggressor with a reverse sidekick to the gut and then kicked him in the head with a hook kick. Any questions?

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Would it not have been safer, and just as effective, to punch him in the gut and elbow him in the head?

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#118496 - 11/19/04 09:44 PM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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No, it wouldn't have been safer. The legs are longer than the arms giving me more distance between myself and the agressor. Kicking is what I was trained to do. It all boils down to the indivdual stylist and how they train. Do what suits you best but please, don't try to advise me on what is right for me.

[This message has been edited by MrHate (edited 11-20-2004).]

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#118497 - 11/20/04 01:03 PM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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You're right, the legs are longer and you have the advantage of distance. But the potential cost of the kick is also higher. If the attacking limb is intercepted and broken, a broken leg is much worse for your fighting prospects than a broken arm. Furthermore you're a lot more likely to end up on the ground if you're pushed while attemtping the attack.

I'm not telling you what to do. For all I know you could have godly kicks that are much better than your hand techniques. I'm just suggesting alternatives in the spirit of discussion.

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#118498 - 11/20/04 08:43 PM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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A midlevel sidekick is probably one of the hardest techniques to stop if the timing and execution are correct. If you throw a punch and I counter with a sidekick you're going to be spitting out ribs. Why would I use a hand technique when the legs are longer and stronger?

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#118499 - 11/21/04 01:53 PM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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I don't agree with your assessment of the mid side kick. It's certainly strong, a properly placed rear leg or stepping side kick is a fight ender. But it's not any more difficult to defend than a front kick. Easier, in my opinion, because to put power in the side kick you're going to be rotating your hip into it, while the front kick hip thrust power generation is harder to spot. If you minimize the amount of hip rotation involved by fighting from a 90 degrees sideways posture, then you're making yourself more vulnerable to takedowns.

Not everyone fights with full extension attacks. If I'm punching you, I'm maybe two feet away from you, and I'm either kicking your knee or trying to disrupt your root with my front leg. A good side kick is difficult to pull off in that situation, because of the proximity and because my leg's in the general area interfering.

The legs are stronger and longer, but that's not always an advantage. A 18' pike is a very long and effective weapon ( in formation ), but if your opponent's three feet away from you the pike's utility is pretty limited.

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#118500 - 11/21/04 04:03 PM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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All I have to do is take a single step back and you're in optimum range for my rib-shattering sidekick. Like I posted previously, timing and execution are essential. I can throw a sidekick with lightening speed and train my students in the same manner. All situations are different requiring split second assessment and decision making. If I found myself unable to throw a sidekick I might very well throw a punch or elbow.

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#118501 - 11/21/04 05:47 PM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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You can take a step back, and I can take a step forward. If I wanted to, I could grapple you and make it difficult for you to take that step back. So essentially, you have two clean shots at that kick, when I'm coming and when the fight is over and one of us is walking away. In the latter case it doesn't really matter because the fight's over. In the former, if I'm advancing and manage to deflect your kick, there's a good chance I can advance and unbalance you before you recover from it. If I manage to put you on the ground, the chances of your survival just got a lot lower, especially if I have mates around. This is the point where we disagree I think. When your life is truly on the line, I don't think that kind of risk is worth taking when you could use lower risk techniques instead.

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#118502 - 11/21/04 07:30 PM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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There are all sorts of variables to take into consideration in any altercation. I related a real life experience to illustrate my point that kicking definately has a place in the line of self defense. You can't argue with results, can you? Fact is I dispelled an agressor with a shot to the gut and a follow up to the head. What may or may not happen in any other given situation is mere speculation on either of our parts but I feel fairly certain that I would have similar results in similar circumstances.

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#118503 - 11/22/04 10:00 AM Re: Why Does tkd have high kicks?
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no one is looking forward to someones foot driving into there face/throught. which brings up the question exactly how tall are u, and did u know that alot of peaple can easily reach over that height with there feet standing?

[This message has been edited by draconous14 (edited 11-23-2004).]

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