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#118353 - 02/14/03 07:36 PM Re: How useful?
Jamoni Offline
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Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 1514
Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
High kicks, like all techniques, have inevitable advantages and disadvantages that must be taken into account before using them in a given situation. Although I would probably not choose to use one in combat, I have seen them used to good effect. I have personally used a high snap kick to the chin against a boxer, who clocked me with a left hook at the same time. Those were the only two attacks thrown, and the end result was a double KO. So I would say my snap kick is at least as effective as a left hook, no matter how lousy my defense was!

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#118354 - 02/16/03 04:52 AM Re: How useful?
taebot Offline
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Who said that training in TKD means you're gonna try to kick to the head?

But I like that misconception. Next time I fight IK, I'm gonna yell, "Hey, Isshyn!, It's me! taebot!"

When his hands go up, I'll kick him in the "knees!"

[Well what did you expect me to say? I am a man of wealth and taste!]

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#118355 - 02/16/03 04:55 AM Re: How useful?
taebot Offline
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Since I don't engage in street-fighting, I will tell you it was useful as a bouncer and as concert security (I just loved being down in the front pit much to the detrement of my hearing acuity...).

So was my training as a high school wrestler.

And all the lickings that my sisters gave me.

The Shotokan was helpful too!

And the Judo...

And the Arnis...

And mean, mean, men as teachers...

YIKES!

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#118356 - 02/19/03 04:25 PM Re: How useful?
Chen Zen Offline
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first off i have to disagree with all the naysayers who say high kicks have no place in fighting. a high roundhouse kick saved my life. now as for the effectiveness of tkd in a street fight? well i have been doing m/a's for 13 yrs with tkd as my foundation. if you go to a good school that isnt tournament based, and you have a good teacher then tkd can do wonders. it functions well with other ma's, you will find much of the same stances and techniques in other sytems, the ability to blend with other styles into tkd, all of these have made it possible for me to never lose a fight. thats not to say i havent been hurt and i dont want to give all the credit to tkd but it is my foundation and i can say it works. the technique that defeats you is anything except what you have trained for.

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#118357 - 02/20/03 04:48 AM Re: How useful?
taebot Offline
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What he said!

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#118358 - 04/16/03 09:43 AM Re: How useful?
applegm Offline
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Registered: 04/15/03
Posts: 58
Loc: Hong Kong
so TKD does work well when it comes to Street-
fighting right?

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#118359 - 04/17/03 05:52 AM Re: How useful?
Cato Offline
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Registered: 10/13/02
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The concensus would be that high kicks have a place in street fights. Okay, that may be so. All I can say is that from the street fights I've seen, I have never seen an effective kick above the waist. But then I rarely see two people square off and spar in a street fight. From those I've seen the opportunity to kick disappears very, very quickly as the gap closes almost immediately, and a wrestling match ensues.

Now perhaps I've only ever seen fights between people who can't kick properly, I don't know. But the fact remains that the opportunities to do so are severely limited.

I think TKD in its fullest form is a rare beast, but is nonetheless as good a MA as any other. In it's more common sport form TKD is as good a sport as any other. I just wouldn't fancy relying on any sport to defend myself effectively.

Budo

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#118360 - 05/13/03 02:27 PM Re: How useful?
CinciTKD Offline
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Registered: 05/13/03
Posts: 22
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
A high kick would not be my first choice in a street fight. It isn't my first choice in sparring unless I'm using it to set something up.

The high kick in a street fight would most likely be after a the opponet is stunned or on their knees and used as a finishing blow.

Most the the Self-Defense Techniques I drill invole low-roundhouse to the legs or elbows/knees techniques. But if I know I have you stunned/unawares I'll go "Head Hunting."

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#118361 - 05/13/03 02:55 PM Re: How useful?
JohnL Offline
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Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 4309
Loc: NY, NY, USA
The high kick in a street fight would most likely be after a the opponet is stunned or on their knees and used as a finishing blow.

In which case, it's no longer a high kick.
(With apologies to the 7'6 guys who would prove me wrong)

JohnL

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#118362 - 05/13/03 03:00 PM Re: How useful?
CinciTKD Offline
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Registered: 05/13/03
Posts: 22
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Since I'm 5 inches shorter then everyone I train with it still is a high kick. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

Ok so may not so much a high kick if they've stumbled or on their knees but if they are just stunned and the hands have dropped.

It is the whole Risk/Reward thing do you risk the nasty shot to the gonads for the chance at impressing the chicks with that high kick when you rescue them.

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