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#117518 - 11/23/04 09:24 AM Re: Alternative judo
immrtldragon Offline

Registered: 05/22/03
Posts: 1540
Loc: Just outside Philadelphia, PA
Olympic Judo gold medalist Hidehiko Yoshida will be fighting Olympic Greco-Roman wrestling gold medalist (Insert name here, I can't think of it, from the US) in the next PrideFC show on New Years Eve.

This will not really prove which style is better, but will be interesting none-the-less as this is an often debated topic. A gold medalist Judoka v a gold medalist Wrestler. I'm looking forward to watching this.

#117519 - 11/23/04 10:38 AM Re: Alternative judo

Yeah, it's Rulon Gardner,

not mentioned however are the rules of the match,

soon to see them,

but i am not actually so keen upon the who is a better fighter, 'cause see,
i was in the army and i know that the best soldier is the cruellest freak,

and i have seen a 5ft2 skinny, but nervous to death old soldier, not familiar with whatsoever style, beat the hell out of
a 6ft3 pro weightlifter, new to the army,

generally speaking the freestyle wrestlers seem to have at best prepared their bodiies for a rough fight,

it is the sports achievement and the ability to defeat an opponent within a set of rules, and certainly the improvisation of the sports genius that intruiges me,

so alt. judo does not claim to be effective, though might be, but is a great experience, fills one up with energy, just like judo, but with FEWER INJURIES and MORE STREAMLINED

Soon to start giving-in basic techniques,
might try some-o-them

#117520 - 11/23/04 11:16 PM Re: Alternative judo

i'm really curious about why you keep mentioning that alt.judo results in fewer injuries? the only injuries i've had weren't because of the gi, and only one of them was semi serious. i fractured a tendon in my ankle being thrown in uchikomi. i believe it was o-soto-gari, where my tori tripped and fell on me while my foot got wedged in a rediculously soft mat. everything else has been bumps and bruises since i was ten.
i'd also really like to see the pride fight. do those ever make it to dvd? i've found some ufcs and some king of the cage, but that's about it.

#117521 - 11/24/04 02:01 AM Re: Alternative judo

Well, Tony,

besides being a good judoka, you are as well quite lucky to have escaped whatsoever serious injury, but I do actually know such people who go in for judo for thirty years and not have the slightest of injury,

'cause I was continously feeling discomfort in the upper joints of the fingers and in the knees, and BOTH are result of the kimono:
fingers - because of the grip, and knees - because the knee joints hold the body erect when those immense tensions through the grip on the gi try to disbalance you,
and they take it all,

when no gi, those things are spared,

Pride have a webpage, easy to find through google or else,

If those guys wrestle with a kimono and on a judo mat, I bet on the Japanese, Gardner
however will have the upper hand if they are on a wrestling mat, 'cause it is very soft and a judoka loses speed and strength
while a wrestler gains stability, his legs subsided deeply...

Hope it's

#117522 - 11/24/04 02:10 AM Re: Alternative judo

a true wrestling sensation, 'cause all those fights I have watched performed in Japan are pretty real

#117523 - 12/03/04 10:30 AM Re: Alternative judo

Alternative judo techniques:

Very effective - push the throttle of the opponent with outer forearm, or the inner arm-pit, COMBINED with lifting or pulling opponents opposite leg, from the outer/inner side respectively - they tend to land on the back of their head and think are in space...

Soon more...

#117524 - 12/07/04 04:46 AM Re: Alternative judo

Alternative Judo Techniques:

Grab opponent's right hand with your left in the back low armpit, just above the elbow, catch his left leg above the knee with right hand and with a swirl and a hit in the opponent's chest with your head, you pull him out of balance...


#117525 - 12/19/04 05:57 PM Re: Alternative judo
russman167 Offline

Registered: 06/08/04
Posts: 46
Loc: St. Louis, MO
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gerginekov:
The kimono of judo makes it a sensational sport, but try judo with the same rules without the kimono - as in wrestling - and not allow touching the knee on the floor - it gets twice as dynamic and three times as hard - and fewer injuries[/QUOTE]

Yes I think they call it Greco Roman wrestling. And as for it being more dynamic, that is kind of a matter of opinion.

Your name makes it likely that you are Russian. I had the opportunity to train in Russia a few years ago, and thought that it was incredible to see, wrestlers, Judo, and Sambo players all training together. The point is I don't think you are inventing a new sport here so much a modifying the rules of an existing one.

Cosidering the difficulty (in the US at least) of getting training partners for the ones we already have, I'm just not sure that this idea has a real future.

Good Luck though.

May Your Way be Gentle.


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