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#117271 - 06/17/04 03:32 AM rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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i live in an area that has alot of sexual assults accuring lately.what kind of fighting style should i plan for?im 5'5",130 pounds,and currenly not very strong.i hear you guys say that body type is something to considder when desiding this.are thier any exeptions?

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#117272 - 06/17/04 06:46 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
still wadowoman Offline
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Registered: 04/10/04
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Loc: Residence:UK- Heart:Md, USA
If it is self defence you are looking for I recommend a striking art (boxing/kickboxing/karate/kungfu/tkd etc)
combined with a grappling art (Japanese or Brazilian Ju Jitsu/Judo/Aikido etc).

I only weigh around 7 pounds more than you although I am a couple of inches taller and 27 years older. I do karate, jujitsu and a little judo (I am fairly appalling at the latter two but getting better).

I would also reccomend that you do not join an all female group as your attacker is statistically more likely to be a male and therefore bigger/stronger than you. A good instructor will encourage you to train with partners of varying weight, height and ability.

More importantly, if you live in a rough area, do not go out alone after dark, carry a mobile/cell phone and make sure your parents always know where you are (boring I know, but honestly the safest option). Be aware of yur surroundings and at the first sign of trouble, get the hell out of there.
Sharon




[This message has been edited by still wadowoman (edited 06-17-2004).]

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#117273 - 06/21/04 01:55 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
JudoJitsuKa Offline
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Registered: 03/17/04
Posts: 82
Loc: singapore
sorry for late reply

I personally think grappling is cool.Plus u might want to add some boxing and kick boxing.Learn how to clinch and to throw down people hard.Learn judo too for grappling and close combat.I come from a school very famous for gang fights and stuff.so this is my opinion for in my experience those punks like to throw wild swings and getting near to them gives you the advantage.To throw them its very very easilt as they dont expect it

My opinion.
Cheers
Judojitsuka

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#117274 - 06/22/04 09:59 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
VJ Offline
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Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 146
Loc: San Diego, CA
[QUOTE]Originally posted by horselover67:
i live in an area that has alot of sexual assults accuring lately.what kind of fighting style should i plan for?im 5'5",130 pounds,and currenly not very strong.i hear you guys say that body type is something to considder when desiding this.are thier any exeptions?[/QUOTE]

If these sexual assaults involve gangs then go with the striking arts and a good pair of running shoes. I like grappling but the last place you want to be is on the ground if the punk has friends. Hitting and running will save your hide because your assailant and friends probably won't follow you into a public place unless they want to get caught.

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#117275 - 06/22/04 04:04 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
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thanks for the advice guys!i do have a tendancy to sneek out every so often,just to go places with friends.like bowling alleys or just to hang out.my friend doesnt know how to fight at all,and i was wondering that if sometime in the near future,if we got attaked again and she coulnt run(shes kinda dumb when shes scared)how can i defend her and myself?ladst time she got stuck in between a car and a building.luckily the guy was stupid and i managed to knock the wind out of him,so we took off.i wont be going out to places like that anymore,dont worry.but sometimes i cant avoid going on streets that have no-one on them.pease,dont critize me for what ive said.im just looking for some advice if that should happen agian.

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#117276 - 06/22/04 04:15 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
immrtldragon Offline
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Registered: 05/22/03
Posts: 1540
Loc: Just outside Philadelphia, PA
Pepper spray.

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#117277 - 08/02/04 01:08 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
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the most importaint thing in self defence is awareness!

know where you are and avoid dangerous situations...

if you live in a ruff place being aware can save your ass....


in situations where fighting mite get you stabed or shot....


if im not there they cant hit me

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#117278 - 08/03/04 03:27 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Lokkan-Do Offline
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Registered: 04/10/04
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Definitely ground fighting like Brazilian Ju Jutsu or Judo.

It's horrible living in a neighbourhood like that. There were 3 rapes in my proximity that I know of.

9 (gunshot incidents and murder through other means)

I am becoming really concern.

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#117279 - 08/10/04 12:00 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
VJ Offline
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Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 146
Loc: San Diego, CA
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lokkan-Do:
Definitely ground fighting like Brazilian Ju Jutsu or Judo.

It's horrible living in a neighbourhood like that. There were 3 rapes in my proximity that I know of.

9 (gunshot incidents and murder through other means)

I am becoming really concern.
[/QUOTE]

Seriously, the last thing you want to do is go to the ground. You need to try to stick with more stand-up skills and incorporate some ground work (last resort). Once on the ground besides worrying about the person you are fighting you will be susceptible to the attacker's buddies who will definitely interfere when their "buddy" is losing.

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#117280 - 08/18/04 10:12 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
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Here is a site with some decent information concerning self defence.
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/

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#117281 - 09/24/04 12:05 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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Last thing you want to do is go on ground? Judo throw. Hurts. Much. Let's say there are 3 attackers, you are alone.. First one comes, kick him to groin area and throw one of his friends, and if the throwed guy isnt down yet, kick him to face and finish the guy you kciked to groin area. 1 guy left. If he dont have weapon he should be easy. Judo throw, then go to ground fight, broke his elbow, then... walk off/call police... Also, Pepper spray or knife would be nice, I always keep my knife with me.

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#117282 - 09/24/04 10:47 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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just two cents, but i did read the words "sexual assault". maybe i'm pessimisstic, but i have seen more than a couple fights which involved only one grappler. could the stand up fighter keep the fight standing up? nope. and these were evenly matched opponents. hate to say it, but what makes some of you think that a guy bent on grabbing a woman and taking her to the ground or for ANY kind of wrestling activity won't be able to do it? it can and will happen. maybe judo or ju-jitsu won't save the day, but it will make a person a LOT more comfortable with grappling, which may open the right opportunity at the right time. i've also seen lots of fights between girls, and very rarely do either of them end up bleeding. this tells me that most women won't punch hard enough to make a difference. so WORK THE HEAVY BAG!!! if you aren't sure how hard you're hitting it, ask a guy to come over and punch it a few times really hard.

step one, study awareness. self defence for dummies is well written.

step two, make sure your physical fitness is up to par. i've heard good things about billy blanks and tae bo, but it could be a bunch of hype. physical fitness very important though.

step three, try to find something that incorporates basic strikes to basic, effective targets and grappling from stand-up and ground for the reasons mentioned. this should not be something fancy.

step four, get a kubiton or pepper spray. learn how to use your keys (that's right, car keys) as weapons.

step infinity, remember that self defence is rarely about fighting.
tony

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#117283 - 09/25/04 01:22 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
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i doubt you could defeat a guy who is a lot bigger and stronger than you with judo unless you are really really really good at it. and as for pepper spray, did you knew that when shooting someone with pepper spray you are almost certain to get some in your own eyes and sinus... after all this is a gas... i've been sprayed with pepper spray before and though it made me cough a lot and cry and made my eyes burn, i wasn't totally out of combat, sure it impairs your fighting ability but... and besides the person who had sprayed me had almost similar effects. oh and if you spray someone with pepper spray, since you'll breath some of it too, you won't be able to shout for help. you're better off with a switchblade to my opinion.

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#117284 - 12/12/04 09:24 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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aikido and kickboxing!

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#117285 - 12/13/04 10:17 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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Lots of men ready to help, ain't it cool,

me, i was in the army, and i know that a nervous soldier could defeat anybody or anything,

'cause it is the mind-set, not the body-type that counts,

GET YOURSELF A WEAPON,

and HAVE A PROFESSOINAL teach you how to use it with all the legal aspects to it!!!

you might and probably will never have to use it, not even pull it out if you are properly trained,

or...

change neighbourhood,

relying upon a martial art style is nothing short of silly... about such a serious thing!!!

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#117286 - 12/24/04 08:56 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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Use the white crane steel pipe approach.
It works everytime....just joking unless they're
carrying the black taurus 14 round clip approach. Then you might just need to hide or run.:] Just having fun guys...dont go to sleep yet.

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#117287 - 01/20/05 08:43 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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Hey Guys. Late reply, I know, but I'm new to the forum. I would highly suggest an equalizer: A weapon. A knife is a possibility, however that's kinda hard to explain to people why there's a big piece of sharp steel in your purse. Pepperspray is more discreet. Make sure to step back from the area that you are spraying, as you are spraying. You might also want to consider a retractable baton. My girlfriend worked at a shelter in a shady neighbourhood, and is not a strong striker by any means, so I gave her pepper spray.

As for arts, I would recommend Wing Chun. It is, to my knowledge, the only martial art invented by a woman. Therefore it has the woman in mind. It is designed to be quick and lethal, while not requiring physical strength of the practitoner.

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#117288 - 01/21/05 05:30 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
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Rideonlythelabel-doubt you could defeat a guy who is a lot bigger and stronger than you with judo unless you are really really really good at it

Actually a grappling art like Judo or BJJ is one of the best things to do against a bigger and stronger opponent cause as i have siad before it is all about leverage.

Gerginekov-relying upon a martial art style is nothing short of silly... about such a serious thing!!!

If your saying that martial arts is not going to work in a fight then i am in complete disagreement. However if your saying it would be better to become more aware about where you go, what you do and being street smart etc...while taking an MA then i am in complete agreement.

Lastly horselover67 you should check out the link it might be something worth purchasing!
http://www.personal-selfdefense-online.com/pepper-spray-ring.htm




[This message has been edited by somedude (edited 01-21-2005).]

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#117289 - 03/19/05 11:00 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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vim

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#117290 - 03/19/05 11:06 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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sry bout that c'in how u do this forum thing , lol anyway i do judo and i think its good for protecting urself from a larger person as i through a 15 stone block and im only 9 stone but i would add some boxing in there girl and u will b away , trust u will b good, but when throughing do it hard and with aggresion and u will be fine [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG] dan

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#117291 - 03/19/05 11:11 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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o.k let me tell u something 4 the guy who thinks he can do 3 martial arts and make it work. i think its nearly impossible 4 some1 to remember everything like the jap words. also when u practice say karate do u do a jujitsu move by mistake thats not gona look good in the grading , sry i just wanted to no if u do it and how u can do that ? , dan

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#117292 - 03/19/05 12:15 PM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
still wadowoman Offline
Improved beefier techno-prat

Registered: 04/10/04
Posts: 3420
Loc: Residence:UK- Heart:Md, USA
[QUOTE]Originally posted by judo118:
o.k let me tell u something 4 the guy who thinks he can do 3 martial arts and make it work. i think its nearly impossible 4 some1 to remember everything like the jap words. also when u practice say karate do u do a jujitsu move by mistake thats not gona look good in the grading , sry i just wanted to no if u do it and how u can do that ? , dan[/QUOTE]

I know several people who practice more than one art without a problem.

The trick is to become competent in one art first.
Sharon

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#117293 - 03/20/05 09:31 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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Firstly, the best self defense is your awareness followed by your sprinting skill. If you are not in the path of danger you cannot be hurt. Usually a little common sense (which is infact very rare) will go a long way. Keep an eye out around you and always scan your surroundings for people who look like they are suspicious. Usually there will be an indication that a criminal attack is about to occur a short time before it does. This is enough time to high-tail it.

NEVER try to fight multiple opponents, it is akin to hitting your head against a brick wall. Create an opening to safety and run like hell. If you have to fight, KO your opponent in 3 moves or less then make a quick get-away.

If your friend gets stuck, drag her away from danger as quickly as possible. Yell at her to run, grab her and run like hell.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by White Lotus:
Last thing you want to do is go on ground? Judo throw. Hurts. Much. Let's say there are 3 attackers, you are alone.. First one comes, kick him to groin area and throw one of his friends, and if the throwed guy isnt down yet, kick him to face and finish the guy you kciked to groin area. 1 guy left. If he dont have weapon he should be easy. Judo throw, then go to ground fight, broke his elbow, then... walk off/call police... Also, Pepper spray or knife would be nice, I always keep my knife with me.[/QUOTE]

If you are on the ground you are immobilised and one of the guy-who-you're-rolling-around-with's friends can easily boot you in the head. Throwing to the ground is good and if you are taken to the ground, you need to know what to do while you're there but in a multiple attacker scenario or in a pub where the floor is covered in smashed glass, you don't want to go to the ground.

The nature of grappling is such that you can more easily beat someone bigger and stronger than you as long as they aren't as skilled. (Rather than striking where strength makes more of a difference).

I study both TKD and Jujutsu and I have no problem learning both. I started TKD 15 years ago and Jujutsu recently, so I do think it's best to start off with a couple of years of one and then add on another MA.

I also support the site: www.nononsenseselfdefense.com

[This message has been edited by Leo_E_49 (edited 03-20-2005).]

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#117294 - 04/16/05 09:26 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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Here's the only self defence you need:
Kick to testicles
Knee to testicles
Grab and squeeze/twist testicles etc
eye gauge
slap both ears simultaneously
fish hook mouth
kicks hard to shin/knee etc
There you go 7 highly effective self defence techniques. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]



[This message has been edited by Stormdragon (edited 04-16-2005).]

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#117295 - 04/18/05 10:25 AM Re: rough neighborhood,what kind of fighting style should i plan for?
Anonymous
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stormdragon- WRONG ! so as u go to grap the testis he moves backwards and punches her in the face or if its a women they dont have testis [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]i do judo and i think its a great art for self defence also ju jitsu , dan

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