[QUOTE]Originally posted by immrtldragon:
Of course Judo players who are strictly Judo will be poor punchers. You have to train punching to be a good puncher. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for stating the obvious. Yoshida trained to strike which has been felt to be one of the weak points of judo.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by VJ:
Striking is something that most judo players seem to do poorly. Watching Christophe Leninger at two UFC events is an example. A great judo player but all his opponents commented on the weak strikes. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for bringing up the obvious first. I was just stating another fact in response to your intitial statement. I was actually reinforcing your point. Your welcome in that case.

Jigori Kano created judo as a sport. Judoka are definately the HARDEST people that I have ever sparred. Just because it teaches you to handle yourself in a fight, albiet really well, it is still a sport. At least the kodokan judo set up by Jigori Kano. If sports that teach you how to fight are martial arts, I easily have the rank of nidan in ice hockey-do.
No disrespect to judo practitioners. I would rather face karate, tkd, and jujitsu than a good judoka.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sammyrai:
No disrespect to judo practitioners. I would rather face karate, tkd, and jujitsu than a good judoka.[/QUOTE]

Interesting, but isn't TKD also a sport?? BTW, what about a trained, competitive boxer? Or a BJJ practitioner? Also sports.

P.S. Hockey isn't really a sport that develops fighting skills. A lot of my friends play hockey and although they are intimidating, they may be the easiest people I have ever thrown on their arse while they were trying to act tough.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sammyrai:
Jigori Kano created judo as a sport. Judoka are definately the HARDEST people that I have ever sparred. Just because it teaches you to handle yourself in a fight, albiet really well, it is still a sport. At least the kodokan judo set up by Jigori Kano. If sports that teach you how to fight are martial arts, I easily have the rank of nidan in ice hockey-do.
No disrespect to judo practitioners. I would rather face karate, tkd, and jujitsu than a good judoka.[/QUOTE]

Dr. Kano created Judo as both a martial art and a sport to be exact.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sammyrai:
...If sports that teach you how to fight are martial arts, I easily have the rank of nidan in ice hockey-do.
No disrespect to judo practitioners. I would rather face karate, tkd, and jujitsu than a good judoka.[/QUOTE]

What about a judoka that knows how to box?


-John

[QUOTE]Originally posted by immrtldragon:
Thanks for bringing up the obvious first. I was just stating another fact in response to your intitial statement. I was actually reinforcing your point. Your welcome in that case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JKogas:
What about a judoka that knows how to box?


-John

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I'm working on it. Should be in the ring sparring within a couple more weeks. I'm actually quite nervous...it will be very different to not be allowed or able to throw someone. I'm basically getting in on their 'turf.' Luckily, everyone there is cool, so I know I'll be getting my head knocked around by someone who is just trying to help. Maybe I'll post about the experience when I wake up.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by immrtldragon:
I'm working on it. Should be in the ring sparring within a couple more weeks. I'm actually quite nervous...it will be very different to not be allowed or able to throw someone. I'm basically getting in on their 'turf.' Luckily, everyone there is cool, so I know I'll be getting my head knocked around by someone who is just trying to help. Maybe I'll post about the experience when I wake up.[/QUOTE]

Good luck and let us know how it goes. It worked for Christophe Leninger who managed to make it to the finals of the UFC.

I used to hate sparring, when I first started to box, hang on a minute what am i saying, I still do!! lol!

Just control the fear mate, recognise the adrenaline, and realise that you are in there for a LONG time. Don't try and kill him all at once. Also keep moving, otherwise you'll get twatted.

If you get lazy or switch off, you'll be static and a prime target.

Don't wanna come across patronizing, but I thought, I'd have liked someone to have rammmed that down my throat when I first climbed in the ring.

Alec.

PS CHIN DOWN, HANDS UP!! lol! good luck!