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#116856 - 09/05/03 09:56 AM Re: Yoshida in Pride
charles mckey Offline

Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 1368
[QUOTE]Originally posted by immrtldragon:
Charles, I agree Yoshida Probably would have won...he had Gracie in awesome position, close to impossible to escape...but if anyone could have escaped it would have probably been Gracie. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, although most of the guys saying Gracie never looked to be in command of the fight are BJJ'ers! Here's the [URL=http://""]discussion[/URL] from rec.martial-arts, if anyones interested - snip out the more hysterical posts, and people pursuing old arguments, and there's some interesting comment in there.

Thanks for posting the link, btw - lots of good stuff on the rest of that site too, especially for the person considering adding a session or two of judo to their MA training... [IMG][/IMG]

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#116857 - 09/05/03 12:06 PM Re: Yoshida in Pride
immrtldragon Offline

Registered: 05/22/03
Posts: 1540
Loc: Just outside Philadelphia, PA
No problem...I love that site...lots of useful info. Also, thanks for your link...I will check that out.

#116858 - 03/24/04 10:26 AM Re: Yoshida in Pride
VJ Offline

Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 146
Loc: San Diego, CA
Anyone see the rematch of Yoshida versus Gracie? I thought I was watching a foot race as much as Yoshida ran. Why didn't he take Gracie to the ground and give him some schooling on grappling? Except for the shot to the groin the fight was sadly disappointing. All the reviews slammed Yoshida wondering where the fighter who beat Gracie went.

#116859 - 03/24/04 12:15 PM Re: Yoshida in Pride
immrtldragon Offline

Registered: 05/22/03
Posts: 1540
Loc: Just outside Philadelphia, PA
Gracie dominated...what else can be said? There was talk that Yoshida was ill and didn't prepare for the fight...but anything said is an excuse. I like Yoshida a lot...I've seen his Judo videos, I've seen him do well in Pride...that night, he lost. He has publicly expressed interest to fight Royce a third time and settle it under normal Pride rules, but Royce has not expressed any interest. The fight would give some closure, but there is a chance it will never happen. Royce usually wants special rules and after coming off this fight looking like the winner, he probably doesn't want to risk a loss to Yoshida. Only time will tell what happens. Also, you asked why Yoshida didn't take him to the ground and give him some schooling on grappling...probably because it is not that easy considering Royce Gracie has trained his entire life in grappling. Also, taking off the gi top had to have some effect on Yoshida's ability to control a BJJ blackbelt. I haven't really heard any reviewers slam Yoshida...he has olympic gold in Judo and didn't start any MMA training or competition until he was about 34 years old...then went the distance with the most dominant middleweight Pride has ever seen (Wanderlei Silva). I'm still impressed.

#116860 - 05/31/04 08:42 AM Re: Yoshida in Pride

Yoshida is a great fighter even in MMA events. He bet K-1 legend Massaki Sataki and Don Frye. I knew Silva would beat him, but I was surprised it was by a decision.
Does anyone know how to get the Silva VS Yoshida fight, its not on Kazaa???
please tell me, Iv'e heard its a great fight

How do you think Yoshida would handle Sakuraba? Even though Sakuraba is past his prime, he still bet Randleman, and he bet cro cop [IMG][/IMG]. I would say it would be a good fight, possibly a draw or Kazushi Sakuraba by decision

#116861 - 06/01/04 10:26 AM Re: Yoshida in Pride
immrtldragon Offline

Registered: 05/22/03
Posts: 1540
Loc: Just outside Philadelphia, PA
Actually Donald, Sak lost to CroCop. He sustained an injury (I believe a fractured cheekbone) and couldn't continue. Sak is my favorite fighter though. I think Sak would take Yoshida, but I don't think they'll ever fight. Sak announced that he will be retiring soon but first wants some revenge matches. So, likely, you will only see Sak fighting people he has previously fought and lost to (though hopefully not Silva). Apparently Sak has been training harder and has a new motivation...let's hope so. Yoshida is fighting June 20th, not sure of his opponent though. Sak is also fighting that day. I hope Yoshida can do well coming off his loss...i mean 'draw' to Royce. That is one fight I wish would have went the other way. I can't stand Royce and his constant 'rule making.'

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