I have used arm and wrist locks a few times, I have only performed one throw in a fighting situation, and it was purely reflex. My tokui waza is Uki Waza and as the guy rushed me it was natural to let him swing and then vanish underneath him. Might not be the smartest throw (esp if he has mates) as you are left lying on the ground, but as I said, it was reflex.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ivan:
I saw an early UFC fight where this judo guy blocked this wild looping punch and went right into soto makikomi and followed him to the ground; holding onto his striking arm with both of his.
Once he was on the ground he left go with one hand and elbowed the guy until he was unconscious. It was beautiful. I never forgot that and have practiced it several times since.
I don't think uchimata is a bad one either. Since often times you can go right into kesa gatame once you have completed the throw.
Don't forget uranage. You uranage somebody on the pavement... fights over.
Any type of footsweep is good, nobody expects them.
Basically, I don't think there's too many judo throws that aren't practical in the street. It's all situational.
Oh yeah, if I was going to do osoto gari in the street; I would modify it and elbow the guy in the face as I come across.[/QUOTE]

Thank you Ivan. I must say that in alot of styles I question how a particular move may be worth using, or I may think to myself how stupid I think it is, but fact is, I haven't mastered any style and neither am I a beginner as I have studied quite a few styles, but every street situation is different requiring different applications. For someone to say that a particular style is useless is absurd. On the ground, I can guarantee that I can hold my own. Some schools don't pay as much attention to groundwork as others, but some do, I assure you. As for throws, I would absolutey hate to be the idiot messing with a judoka and not realize it. One throw to the asphalt and we're talking potential knock out or other serious injury. I may not like some styles, but you will never hear me knocking them because as sure as I do, one of those moves that I think are stupid, will be the one to get me. [QUOTE]Originally posted by X-Dohigh:
I train mostly in Japanese Jujitsu, ive done some karate and kickboxing as well.

The only time ive used jj on the street I was grabbed outside a pub and tried an O-goshi which didnt work. Then used a technique that I can only describe as an Ushiro-goshi that put him down and knocked the wind out of him.[/QUOTE]

Merry Christmas, masters of judo, all around the planet...

...may next year yield progress for each of you in the field of this most fascinating of sports!!!

in my dojo a couple of teenagers wanted to learn to use judo for fighting.i refused.one pushed me (i am 72)i took him down with hiza garuma,caught his head just before he hit the mat.they never came in again..a prison guard (san kyu) use osotogari.and the prisoners watching clapped.push pull whatever it takes.