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#116801 - 06/18/03 02:02 PM Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
Judokid Offline
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I have posted this topic on Judoinfo.com, and the results were tremendous!! This topic is different than the topic of is it effective. this is the next stp. Who else has used it in a real situation?? What throws really work in fight on concrete? See Judoinfo.com, under Techniques and also Questions in the Discussion for more info. (hundreds read--please help make this thread a good one!!)

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#116802 - 06/19/03 11:34 AM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
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Good question. If I understand correctly, you're asking which techniques have actually been used to good effect outside the dojo?

Well, for my part one of favourites has to be Osoto gari. I love that technique and find it works most of the time, mainly because it is fast, dynamic and powerfull. It is also quite simpple to apply and to follow up from if needs be.

I also favour seoi otoshi for when I'm being pushed back. Again, a simple technique that can be quickly applied and forced through if things don't go according to plan. I have to confess to finding it a surprisingly difficult throw to get the hang of at first, but perseverence paid off and now I love it.

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#116803 - 06/19/03 03:56 PM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
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ive used a good ol fashioned hip throw with good results i think it was the pavement as opposed to the technique that made the difference though lol

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#116804 - 06/21/03 02:02 PM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
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I like variations of tai-otoshi. They work well for me. I am tall so it is harder to get ogoshi or ippon seio-nage. Other throws I have used are tani-otoshi and yoko-otoshi.Ed www.lonewolfjujutsu.com

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#116805 - 06/24/03 09:55 AM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
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I always think tai otoshi is a much under rated throw, and I think this is because it is more technical than people give it credit for. How many times when learning it did you end up on your backside, or find yourself having to haul uke across your leg like a sack of coal? personally, I favour the kneeling version of the throw, how about you?

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#116806 - 06/24/03 10:07 AM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
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Try kneeling but instead of keeping your foot planted, sweep it back. If the uke doesn't know how to breakfall, he will land on his head. Keep close to uke and keep the sweep low. Contact is made on the lower part of his shin. Your foot never leaves the ground. Just slides backwards. Ed www.lonewolfjujutsu.com

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#116807 - 06/25/03 01:13 PM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
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I'm not sure how that works, Ed. I think I've misunderstood something, it seems like the technique you're describing is a guruma rather than a drop. Where am I going wrong?

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#116808 - 06/30/03 08:00 PM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
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I'll weigh in with 2 faves. osoto gari for when he's moving away and tai otoshi for when he's coming in. falling down hard on the pavement usually stuns an opponet long enough for me to step back and get some safe space or to gain control of an arm so I can roll him over for cuffing. The draw back to either throw for me is that they land on their backs and we cuff them on their bellies. My other very useful technique is to sweep them forward so they fall face down while i retain control of one arm.(is there a judo name for that?). In my line of work I scrap on a fairly regular basis. I find that having a small repitore of relible technique is preferable. I dont get to spend a lot of time at the dojo so streamlining has been effective.

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#116809 - 07/02/03 01:00 PM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
Judokid Offline
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Thanks for your replies so far. In resonse to your question, kman, there is a Judo arm lock in which you lock their arm and land on them when they sweep, probably knocking the wind out of them as they fall on their stomach. Try buying a judo handbook or textbook-it should be in there. I don't know what it's called off the top of my head. A favorite (aikido) move of mine that I saw in a book is like that, except you put pressure on the elbow. Doen't always work against a squerming person, in my, comparatively little experience.

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#116810 - 07/09/03 07:14 AM Re: Practical Street Judo--PLEASE Contribute
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Taking the discussion forward a litle, I find Judo pins can be very ineffective, and sometimes downright foolhardy, for street situations. Does anyone have any experience of successfully pining an attacker by using one for real?

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