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#116676 - 01/15/02 07:42 AM the best throw?
maul_565 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 6
what is the best throw to defend yourself from any attack? the one throw that just stuns the atacker and makes him to think twice before attacking again? personally for me its o soto gari with a higher leg reap.

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#116677 - 02/05/02 01:38 PM Re: the best throw?
Tibbar Offline
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Registered: 02/04/02
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I would prefer two throws for a street/school attacker (these examples are for throwing right-sided):

(1) Osoto-gari. For example, if someone swings a right at your head, you can block with your left, hit him on the nose with the palm of your right hand, and then reap with osoto (you might have to grab onto his right arm using your left blocking arm). Alternatively, you can grasp his throat with your right hand for kuzushi.

(2) Harai-goshi. Use a variation that is closer to koshi-guruma (a half-headlock throw with a reap). You can get a grip by slapping at his face a little and advancing forward with your body turned slightly to the left. If throwing right, try to clamp his right wrist under your left armpit and grasp his elbow with your left hand--use for kuzushi. Shoot your right arm against/around his head and fit in...and wham!

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#116678 - 06/14/02 11:03 PM Re: the best throw?
gus Offline
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Registered: 06/06/02
Posts: 67
Loc: dixon calif.usa
my sensei told me yrs ago the best self defence was was ashi waza.put one foot in front of the as fast as you can.no trophys or medals.just your own skin.gus

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#116679 - 09/13/02 06:53 PM Re: the best throw?
CWP Offline
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Registered: 09/13/02
Posts: 16
Loc: middleburg, florida
I prefer plain old Ippon Seoi Nage. Simple and versatile. It can be a really hard fall, or done as a makkikomi and followed up with groundwork.

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#116680 - 03/27/03 06:56 PM Re: the best throw?
Scholar Offline
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Registered: 03/05/03
Posts: 472
Loc: Brockton
The best throw for me was a sacrifice where I circled behind, grabbed/hugged around the arms and twisted uke under me to the floor It is best because it worked for me in randori. I think the reverse o-goshi from uke's rear with arm around neck to throw him on his front is impressive.

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#116681 - 05/03/03 07:53 AM Re: the best throw?
Shoot-Fighter Offline
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 12
Loc: From Points U nknown
It's not a "judo" throw but I would say that a suplex-style throw is great for the street!!

Also, a "helicopter" throw from a double underhook is another great throw, as is a "sitting" sweep.

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#116682 - 05/03/03 09:21 PM Re: the best throw?
joesixpack Offline
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Registered: 02/04/02
Posts: 2282
Loc: Australia
The most devestating throw with the least effort is to stand side on, facing the same way as uke, clasp your hands together behind their knees, and wrench their legs up and away.

Hed hits pavement, ouch.

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#116683 - 06/15/03 09:02 AM Re: the best throw?
kempo_jujitsu Offline
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Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 1914
Loc: illinois, usa
does anybody ever wonder about the legal ramifications of letting someones head hit the concrete??? he gets out of the hospital (maybe!) and you go to prison for attempted murder lol....just a thought

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#116684 - 06/16/03 04:22 PM Re: the best throw?
immrtldragon Offline
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Registered: 05/22/03
Posts: 1540
Loc: Just outside Philadelphia, PA
I'd imagine if you were in iminent danger and it is not a retalitory strike (or uh throw), you would have a strong argument for self defense. If on the other you grab some guy from behind and decide to show him what Judo feels like on concrete, find a good lawyer.

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#116685 - 06/19/03 03:36 PM Re: the best throw?
Quan Chi Offline
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Registered: 04/13/03
Posts: 54
I think o soto gari is one of the most versatile, where I am (jitsu club) we often do a lot of gauntlet work, when you've got multiple attackers you just can't always afford to grab, swivel, drop etc.

O soto gari is almost an auto pilot throw...and works (unless there's weapons involved!)

But my favourite throw for "coolness" value is kotomo seionage. It just looks great!

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#116686 - 07/24/03 12:25 AM Re: the best throw?
ricksonlegend Offline
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Registered: 07/24/03
Posts: 6
To tell you the truth, there isn't a "best throw." You have to find a few throws that you feel comfortable with and work them over and over. Some throws will feel more comfortable to you than they do to other people. But the key is to find what throws work best for you and training them until they are reflexive. And the reason for picking a few throws is because you can find yourself in different situations that call for different techniques.

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