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#116636 - 05/18/06 11:44 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: Mr_Heretik]
Fletch1 Offline
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I looked at the first couple of posts ans thought "where have these guys been?" until I saw the 2002.

The question should have been "Are you Street Effective?" but that is not as much fun as the "could Aquaman beat Jackie Chan?" rhetoric.
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#116637 - 07/11/07 07:44 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: Brewer]
Vlado666 Offline
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Dudes,you're so wrong about this.Now,I've been training Judo for 2 years(not a lot of EXP i have) but I know a thing or two and I'd like to share my prospective of the question:
1 opp.:You said that by biting or something like that you would brake a submission(yeah,wright) a submission done brakes your arm for less than 3 sec.A choke chokes you out for up to 10 sec and a throw can even kill you.
2.Multiple opp:You just start one by one with judo throws(of course ground fighting in this situation is stupid,I agree,but first you destroy all but one of your opp with throws,and the last one, your choise(my favourite:brake every single arm and leg of his and choke him out ).So saying that Judo is not good gor street fight is just Dump!

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#116638 - 07/11/07 08:19 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: Vlado666]
Barad Offline
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Registered: 11/27/06
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Do your opponents queue up and wait nicely whilst you throw them in turn (like in the films)? What happens if they get up again?

B.

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#116639 - 07/11/07 08:27 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: kiwi]
Vlado666 Offline
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Could you please provide information on how chokes are fatal (not in the you hold them till the brain runs out of oxygen or blood sense).


Well,a proper Choke simply stops the air and the blood and you get daised(I've felt It,for 3 sec I allmost fainted) and If the pressure applied is big,you faint and after you faint If the attacker countiniues the pressure,you can die(no joke)

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#116640 - 07/11/07 08:33 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: JKogas]
Vlado666 Offline
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VJ-

Eye gouges have also been "proven" INEFFECTIVE. So where does that leave us? Back to the conclusion that such tactics are unreliable.I agree with you,I've been hit In the Groin,and until after The fight,I didn't mind It a lot,and I still beat the crab of my opponent(this can be explained very easily:When your in a Street Fight,you get so angry and focused,that you don't feel the small(and not so small) pains and injuries)


I have been poked in the eye before. Sometimes it's debilitating, other times it hasn't been. That's been my point all along. It certainly wouldn't make me stop fighting and, under certain circumstances, would only make me fight harder.

Groin shots haven't been "proven" either, in much the same way. I've been hit in the groin in a fight. It didn't hurt until after the fight was over.

It only serves to underscore the fact that you cannot rely on fight stoppers to stop fights.

About the only things you can rely on to do this is head trauma and structural damage.


-John

[This message has been edited by JKogas (edited 03-29-2004).]



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#116641 - 07/11/07 09:03 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: Brewer]
groundfighter Offline
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Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 53
Loc: Petawawa, Ontario, Canada
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I mean that if a grappler tried to put a arm lock on me the way they were doing it on tv,he would immediately be missing a piece of meat about bite size out of his calf muscle.



I can tell you from experience that the LAST thing on your mind when you are in a submission is trying to bite! It is doing everything you can to stop that arm from breaking. It is a panic situation for the victim of the armbar and even IF he had the presence of mind to completely ignore the fact that his arm is breaking (not likely) a trick of mine is to start kicking him in the face with that leg that has his teeth on it (without loosening my grip or the other leg on his chest) That will make him forget for a second (all you need to *snap*.) Remember that is ONLY if I didn't apply it fast enough to begin with.
You are right though about multiple opponents, however how many of us really feel that we are prepared to fight multiple people anyway?
J
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#116642 - 07/11/07 09:15 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: Barad]
Vlado666 Offline
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Registered: 07/11/07
Posts: 6
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Do your opponents queue up and wait nicely whilst you throw them in turn (like in the films)? What happens if they get up again?First of all,If the throw is made well(and most judokas have at least 3-4 throws that they do very good,it is going to hurt a lot(If u don't believe me, jummp and fall on a wooden floor)Secound,a judoka allways does a pin/choke/subbmission after the throw.
P.S.DON'T Believe everything you see on movies

B.



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#116643 - 07/11/07 09:17 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: Gargoyle]
groundfighter Offline
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Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 53
Loc: Petawawa, Ontario, Canada
I do hate to be picky, but I am dyslexic as well and although I have had major difficulties, one of the common things that most dyslexics share is that we are usually pretty intelligent (according to statistics.) It has no bearing on spelling (especially when your words are spelled the same way every time. You are way too consistant in your spelling for it to be a dyslexia error. You really think that they are spelled that way.) Especially in public forum, don't hurt the rest of us by making us look like uneducated fools. If you can't spell, you can't spell and it isn't dyslexias fault. Don't build stereotype by hiding behind dyslexia because then that is all people expect of us. Show people your martial spirit by overcoming it.
See? No spelling errors.
J
OH, and the ground is my favorite place to go in a fight because EVERYone can throw a punch, not everyone can ground fight. I find that most people are so disoriented by a seasoned groundfighter that they stumble and squirm while throwing panicked and ineffective punches while I commence choking out procedures step 1-10. lol
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#116644 - 07/11/07 09:22 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: Vlado666]
groundfighter Offline
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Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 53
Loc: Petawawa, Ontario, Canada
"I still beat the crab of my opponent"
You can actually beat seafood out of your opponents? WOW, THAT is tough!

J
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#116645 - 07/11/07 09:35 AM Re: Is Judo street effective [Re: groundfighter]
Vlado666 Offline
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Registered: 07/11/07
Posts: 6
Quote:

"I still beat the crab of my opponent"
You can actually beat seafood out of your opponents? WOW, THAT is tough!

J




HAHAHA,very funny(PEDAAAAAL)

edited to fix quote


Edited by MattJ (07/11/07 10:34 AM)

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