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Could you please provide information on how chokes are fatal (not in the you hold them till the brain runs out of oxygen or blood sense).

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Eye gouges have also been "proven" INEFFECTIVE. So where does that leave us? Back to the conclusion that such tactics are unreliable.I agree with you,I've been hit In the Groin,and until after The fight,I didn't mind It a lot,and I still beat the crab of my opponent(this can be explained very easily:When your in a Street Fight,you get so angry and focused,that you don't feel the small(and not so small) pains and injuries)


I have been poked in the eye before. Sometimes it's debilitating, other times it hasn't been. That's been my point all along. It certainly wouldn't make me stop fighting and, under certain circumstances, would only make me fight harder.

Groin shots haven't been "proven" either, in much the same way. I've been hit in the groin in a fight. It didn't hurt until after the fight was over.

It only serves to underscore the fact that you cannot rely on fight stoppers to stop fights.

About the only things you can rely on to do this is head trauma and structural damage.


-John

[This message has been edited by JKogas (edited 03-29-2004).]

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I mean that if a grappler tried to put a arm lock on me the way they were doing it on tv,he would immediately be missing a piece of meat about bite size out of his calf muscle.

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I can tell you from experience that the LAST thing on your mind when you are in a submission is trying to bite! It is doing everything you can to stop that arm from breaking. It is a panic situation for the victim of the armbar and even IF he had the presence of mind to completely ignore the fact that his arm is breaking (not likely) a trick of mine is to start kicking him in the face with that leg that has his teeth on it (without loosening my grip or the other leg on his chest) That will make him forget for a second (all you need to *snap*.) Remember that is ONLY if I didn't apply it fast enough to begin with.
You are right though about multiple opponents, however how many of us really feel that we are prepared to fight multiple people anyway?
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Do your opponents queue up and wait nicely whilst you throw them in turn (like in the films)? What happens if they get up again?First of all,If the throw is made well(and most judokas have at least 3-4 throws that they do very good,it is going to hurt a lot(If u don't believe me, jummp and fall on a wooden floor)Secound,a judoka allways does a pin/choke/subbmission after the throw.
P.S.DON'T Believe everything you see on movies

B.

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"I still beat the crab of my opponent"
You can actually beat seafood out of your opponents? WOW, THAT is tough!

J

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HAHAHA,very funny(PEDAAAAAL)

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