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#113728 - 12/20/04 09:48 AM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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Thanks Charles, you seem to be one of the authorities here, so I appreciate your wisdom.

Even though I partially want skills to aid my career, I'm not in it to learn "film swordsmanship", so want my training to be real, but geared to what would help me the most.

I'm leaning toward Iaido, just because you handle a Shinken all the time. The ability to draw and re-sheathe well looks good on camera, and gives the impression of control. A fight can be choreographed, and as you say, solo practice IS combat training.


Mark.

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#113729 - 12/20/04 10:16 AM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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Don't get me wrong. You will not be training with a live blade for many years. How long depends on your school and dedication. You will use an iaito from very early in training however. An iaito is a zinc aluminum alloy blade which is for all other practical intents and purposes the same as a live blade except for being dull. Check out http://www.swordstore.com for a look at a fine manufacturer or iaito.

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#113730 - 12/20/04 10:49 AM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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Gotcha.

I was considering a Paul Chen Practical Plus. I know you don't value then too highly, but I'm not looking for a "real" sword, as I am beginner, and a PCPP I can get for 120 ($250).

What kind of blade would you suggest? When buying an Iaito, is the price range only for aestethics? I know the difference between 420/440 steel, and carbon, but what is the difference in the 1A-7007 range?

Mark.

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#113731 - 12/20/04 10:59 AM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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The primary difference between the various lines of Swordstore Iaito, which is to say 1A to 5005 is aesthetic in nature. They are for the most part functionally equivalent. The 6006 and 7007 are shinken. Made of steel and sharp as all heck.

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#113732 - 12/20/04 12:09 PM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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Thank you, this is all very helpful indeed.

I think I want to spend around 200 ($400ish).

So you think a good first sword might be the custom 1A Iaito from there? $350, that's not bad at all.

What do you think of www.samurai-store.com?

You can get a custom for $326. That's sounds prety good too.

I have to take into account UK delivery as well though.


Mark.

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#113733 - 12/20/04 12:17 PM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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I have no experience with Samurai Store. Our dojo has been using Swordstore for the last 7 years. We've had a lot of experience with their training weapons. You could look over at http://www.swordforum.com for a review.

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#113734 - 12/20/04 02:11 PM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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Ok.

But you do think it's an Iaito I should get if I want to stick to that price range?

Even though they're not cutting weapons, it's not gonna snap in two if it hits something like a 420/440 blade is it?


Mark.

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#113735 - 12/20/04 02:13 PM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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Yes it probably will, but then again there's a good chance a 420/440 blade being struck against another 420/440 blade will break as well.

[This message has been edited by Charles Mahan (edited 12-20-2004).]

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#113736 - 12/20/04 02:59 PM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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We might at cross-purposes.

I know a 420/440 blade breaks if it hits something, including another 420/440.

But if a 1A-5005 Iaito, which is considerably more money, breaks so easily as well, what's the point in buying one rather than a 420/440?


Mark.

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#113737 - 12/20/04 03:42 PM Re: Iaido or Kendo?
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I don't know why they use zinc-aluminum, but I do know why they don't use stainless.

Stainless steel doesn't just break, it shatters. I saw this happen once on stage during an Easter musical (Peter blocked a swipe from a roman guard while fleeing in Gethsemane). The blade shattered, and the next scene was delayed for five minutes while he got his hand wrapped up. The man was lucky, it hadn't gotten his leg.

Edit: How silly of me. If you look on the internet, you can find anythingLook here for the explanation.

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