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#112017 - 06/12/04 02:04 AM Re: Blade tricks and skills
Sir5cEntss Offline
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Registered: 06/10/04
Posts: 10
Loc: CA
oh, and your posts DON'T make sense. you backtrack and revise a lot. all those logical contradictions annoy me. you must have trouble writing programs...do you tell the computer to do something, then immediately tell it to do the opposite?

ask anyone, its not just me...

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#112018 - 06/12/04 02:56 AM Re: Blade tricks and skills
javaman Offline
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Registered: 07/04/03
Posts: 179
Loc: calgary, alberta, canada
I only mentioned my age and experience because laf7773 asked.

And I never said I was better than anyone, knew more than anyone, was tougher, stronger, faster or more skilled than anyone.

And I never insulted anyone, the closest I came was saying "foolish" in my first post for this topic. But that was not directed at anyone on the forum.

But in your last three posts you have said of me and too me:
[QUOTE]
you're so cocky and full of yourself.

your basing your assumptions on your particular experiences and what limited and biased information

yuo end up looking foolish

all you're doing is backtracking, revising your thoughts, and bullshitting.

haha grow up dude

don't post your age to try to lord over me

your posts DON'T make sense

you must have trouble writing programs

peace out, Mr. Shao-lin
[/QUOTE]


So you've insulted me, my age, my Martial Art, and my career. pretty good, since you've never even met me and I never said anything bad against you. I'm surprised you didn't say something about my mother in there.

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#112019 - 06/12/04 05:00 AM Re: Blade tricks and skills
oldmatricks Offline
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Well java did have a point there even though you maybe right you are showing your age by haveing no respect to java's opinion.
"yo"

But as far as having fun goes..... if you don't have fun learning all the aspects of iaido that includes respect. Then it's prolly not the art for you.

But go ahead swing that sword around stud ... then you can be just like uma thurman. Yea woohoooo...

I do have to agree with java though..... If you are gonna learn the art of Any martial art you better be having fun.

But not by cheap tricks or tips. The only reason i say that is nowdays a couple of kids with cheap guns can take out mass groups of people... I mean it's really not practicle to learn a sword art these days it's more of a hobby.

But then agian if you think of it as "Just a hobby" then agian you prolly shouldn't be learning the arts.

It has to be a passion a dream a desire to learn and become better you have to have passion to practice and become a more spirutal person.

I have no idea about swords and the art and i'm not giving any advice to anyone i just understand that there are some things that people hold dear and for others to trespass apon that with ideas of cheap tricks is an abomination.

Oh it's 5 am in the morning sry for the spelling errors.

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#112020 - 06/12/04 10:16 AM Re: Blade tricks and skills
jimp1969 Offline
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Registered: 06/08/04
Posts: 64
Loc: Midlands UK
Java - apologies if you feel you and your art have been offended - please understand when people talk of tricks with swords - that offends us an our art too.

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#112021 - 06/12/04 10:18 AM Re: Blade tricks and skills
jimp1969 Offline
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Registered: 06/08/04
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Loc: Midlands UK
Apologies Java if you have been offended by what has been written here - please understand though....when people talk of doing 'tricks' with swords - that offends us and are art too. Hope you can see that.

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#112022 - 06/12/04 10:19 AM Re: Blade tricks and skills
jimp1969 Offline
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Oops! Browser refresh!!!

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#112023 - 06/12/04 11:53 AM Re: Blade tricks and skills
laf7773 Offline
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Registered: 05/05/04
Posts: 4064
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Javaman,
"I do know about japanese sword arts."

Your previous statement shows otherwise.

" I'd be willing to bet money, that when the first iai dojo opened up, some old kenjutsu student or instructor dismissed it as being "useless tricks" to impress people. the same thing probably happened with Kendo."

"And since flail means To wave or swing vigorously; thrash: then Iaido is flailing a sword around."

Try posting the full definition. Not jst the bit tat supports your opinion. Why not this one?
"To move vigorously or erratically; thrash about"
Your implying iaido teaches "tricks", you have stated tricks are not preactical nor a part of the art, but iaido does not teach tricks. The controled movements of iaido are a far cry from what you are describing.

"Oh, by the way I'm 25. I have been in wushu for 4 years, I have been a member of ARMA for 3 and I have my first dan ranking in Aikido. Which included a fair bit of iaido. I know you only asked that because it says "student" on my profile."

No i asked because you keep contradicting your self and that leads me to think you have either had minimal training or bad training. I asked your age because it looked like you were simply lashing out because you too are guilty of only wanting to practice "tricks" and not wanting to fully understand the art for what it is.

"French, Spanish, Korean, Italian, Native American and Vietnamese arts. All of these arts were very combat effective and used effectively for hundreds of years."

No one is arguing that with you. We are talking about Japanese sword arts. Since you are the only one that didn't pick up on this is why i asked if you were paying attention. Your tricks will not work in a Japanese art because a kaana is used in a different manner than most any other sword. Since you say you have had a fair bit of iaido training you should have known that, and that these tricks do not apply.

" How old are you and how long have you been studying iaido?"

I'm 31 and have been the MA's since i was 8. Training with swords for about 10 years, iaido about 6 years. I've been lucky enough to visit and study with, however for brief periods at a time, with very knowledgeable and skilled martial artists, swordsmen and swordsmiths in Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore over the last 6 years.

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#112024 - 06/12/04 09:56 PM Re: Blade tricks and skills
Sir5cEntss Offline
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Registered: 06/10/04
Posts: 10
Loc: CA
i might have been a bit too harsh last night, and i apologize for that. but i DID respect java's opinion- no doubt about that, i even mentioned it. i just went about it the wrong way.

however, i still stand by my original comments, minus the vulgarities and insults. i shouldn't have made it so personal.

we cool, javaman?


[This message has been edited by Sir5cEntss (edited 06-12-2004).]

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#112025 - 06/13/04 02:28 PM Re: Blade tricks and skills
javaman Offline
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Registered: 07/04/03
Posts: 179
Loc: calgary, alberta, canada
Yeah we're cool. I would hate to make an enemy of a fellow martial artist, especially one I have never met, over something so trivial as this little disagreement.

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#112026 - 06/13/04 08:18 PM Re: Blade tricks and skills
Kyoku Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 184
Loc: Dubbo, NSW, Australia
*applauds*

Jolly good show chaps.

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