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#111368 - 07/03/03 12:50 AM Re: The new world weapons
evil Offline
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Registered: 05/14/03
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Loc: Tucson
i agree jamoni.

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#111369 - 07/05/03 03:17 PM Re: The new world weapons
Rieko Offline
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Registered: 06/26/03
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Loc: Verona Mo USA
i know that grimmm stated that! i just replied with my own opinion. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG] all weapons are harmful and that's that. im just saying what could be more deadly; a gun or a sword. its just that i'm disturbed by the devestation of a bomb and what it can do to the land. that's what worrys me the most.

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#111370 - 07/11/03 03:38 PM Re: The new world weapons
roninmonk Offline
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Registered: 07/11/03
Posts: 24
Loc: Anderson IN
can i ask at what range you think that gun becomes uesless. the closer you are the more damage you inflict. and i can tell youve never worn a bullet proof vest because most now have a ceramic plate in the front and back some there will be no sword penatration. they can stop ak 47 rounds. lets all be realist weapons kill some kill better than others but they all kill. wake up and smell the napalm no one carries sword and if we truly want to be masters of are elements we must train to be proficient in the weapons of are attackersjust has the smaurais and ninjas of old did. and im not knocking traditional weapons arts budo ninpo and kenjutsu are my true passions and very effective ways of defense.

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#111371 - 07/14/03 12:34 AM Re: The new world weapons
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The original post was that modern weapons are a lower form of weaponry, because they are easeier to use. That is all untrue. Traditional weapons are as easy to use as any gun, if you use them in an untrained manner; which can still be an effective manner. An untrained lunatic who is wildly swinging a katana around can kill many people and is very hard to defend against. The same is true of the same lunatic with a gun. Similarly, a person who is a well trained marksman could do more damage than the same lunatic with a gun. Just as a master of a sword-art would be more dangerous with the same katana than the lunatic with the same weapon.

The basis of the argument seems to be that some people on this post, I won't name names, seem disgruntled that an untrained person with a gun could (probably) easily defeat, even kill, a trained sword master who is only armed with an edged weapon. That merely reflects that the gun is more deadly than the sword in that situation, not that the gun is dishonorable. It certainly does not mean the gun is a lower form of weaponry.

What do you mean Muse Swordsman; by lower form? A gun is more complex, more high tec, more deadly in skilled hands (and isn't that the point of any weapon) than any sword. This would seem to make a gun a higher form of weaponry to me.

And this is one thing everyone has seemed to forgotton, (except nekogami13) is it is just as difficult and takes just as much time to master firearms and marksmanship as it does to master any traditional weapon or unarmed traditional MA.

All weapons were invented to give a fighting advantage over people without, or with lesser weapons. That is why the Japanese constantly researched and improved the design and build of their swords, to let them better fight, and kill their various enemies until the japanese had perfected swordmaking better than any other people.

And btw Evil, would you rather be knifed in the back by some punk kid, or shot by a master marksman?

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#111372 - 07/14/03 08:17 PM Re: The new world weapons
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well ill tell you what... a weapon is a weapon and it kills. yes any person can wield a gun or a sword and can kill blindly. just to say another thing what about those who are young and are naive. can a mere child be more violent than that of a full aged man. a child of 10 to 17. would you be more aware of a man with a sword or a gun than a child?

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#111373 - 07/14/03 10:03 PM Re: The new world weapons
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Registered: 05/14/03
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Loc: Tucson
personally, java, i'd prefer a man to man fist fight, rather than be killed randomly because someone can't shoot what their aiming at. a knife is very personal, i've not heard of anybody getting knifed without a reason. my main beef is young punks looking to guns to settle scores the "easy way" if you will. and those same punks killing people they didn't mean to. a master marksman would do it right and shoot me from 300 yards or more and kill me and me alone.




[This message has been edited by evil (edited 07-15-2003).]

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#111374 - 07/17/03 06:32 PM Re: The new world weapons
javaman Offline
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Well Rieko, youre right; I would be more aware of a person who has a gun rather than a sword. But that's just because I don't think swords are seriously used in crimes anymore, at least not in where I live. I would be no more afraid of a man with a gun though, If I knew he knew how to use it and had no intention of harming me. My main problem is martial artist who look down on people who train with firearms, even if that training is not for self defense, but rather just for fun.

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#111375 - 07/23/03 04:42 PM Re: The new world weapons
MAGon Offline
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Registered: 07/22/03
Posts: 1737
Loc: Miami, Fl.
Has anyone ever noticed that "hand gunning" is sometimes called "The American Martial Art"? There's a reason for that, particularly since many handgun enthusiasts are also martial artists. And from what I've experienced at least some of the philosophy/ ethics of the "jutsu" arts have seeped into the handgun world. In fact, having been exposed to both, I see A LOT in common between handgunning and Kenjutsu.

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#111376 - 08/01/03 01:03 PM Re: The new world weapons
Rikk Offline
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Muse Swordsman:
I believe that todays weapons such as guns and bombs are the lowest form of weaponry. A child can pull a trigger or press a button. Old world weapons(staffs,swords,the body)are true art forms and take practice over years of training to master . I just want to know if there are others out there who feel how I do. [/QUOTE]

They are all tools for a job.

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#111377 - 08/01/03 01:05 PM Re: The new world weapons
Rikk Offline
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They are all tools for a Job.

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