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#110396 - 04/10/05 05:29 AM Re: pepper spray failures
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Wouldn't using a weapon on a non-violent person be considered excessive force and therefore assault?

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#110397 - 04/22/05 04:20 PM Re: pepper spray failures
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I just went through level 1 contamination with MK4 OC 10%. Needless to say it sucked but it didn't prevent me from making it through the course. The hardest time i had during the course was seeing where i was going. Afterward I was more irritated that i couldn't keep my eyes open than i was with the burning. It was about three hours ago and i can still feel the irritation around my eyes mostly.

It was fun to be able to kick the crap out of someone in a skittle suit though, it's been a while since i had access to gear like that.

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#110398 - 04/28/05 10:44 AM Re: pepper spray failures
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I say it is a pcp drug ring of some sort.

but by using the same techniques eventually people will build up an immunity and it wont work. even with batons you can learn to absorb hits and not feel them. the best weapon i think is the elctric chair but some say it is to inhuman.

get a tazer gun. that will work for a while and if not an ak47 should do the trick.

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#110399 - 08/15/05 12:41 AM Re: pepper spray failures [Re: kman]
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It sounds like he was one hell of a brawler. Good on you for finally bringing him down. It's like a horror movie though isn't it?
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#110400 - 08/30/05 04:01 PM Re: pepper spray failures [Re: kman]
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One idea that would be good to check up on is what drugs give you resistance to or the impervious reation to pepper spray or other chemical substances. We know glasses or sports glasses are a definite slower of the process. If they are high or on the drugs or designer drugs do they get a temporary immunity to the feel or impact of the drugs. It can be helpful to know and get a guess ifyou notice no efffect. An ex- military guy can probably handle the sprays and chemicals better, but even more so someone high on drugs. I mention this cause some terrorists are known to get high before they do there homicide bombing. Also gang members and the troublesome sort are occassionaly high on something when you try out the stuff. These might be good to help in get idea what the next move should be in the fast evolving situations.

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#110401 - 08/30/05 04:38 PM Re: pepper spray failures [Re: Virgils]
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Timing is as much of a factor as anything in the effectiveness of OC Pepper Spray. It is generally most effective if applied before the fight is on as a "goal oriented" subject will not stop just because he can't see straight or experiences pain. For too long, OC has beeen referred to as "Karate in a Can", implying that it would handle even the most violent subjects. This has been proven time and time again to be a myth.
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