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#110265 - 07/02/04 04:56 PM Re: Handcuffing Methods
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Not being exposed to the same thing LEO's are, I am not aware of legal issues regarding that tactic or the use of the pressure point at the hinge of the jaw(which is one of my favorites).

Check it out then. Certainly don't take my word for it. It couldn't hurt.

I have a background in MA's, that includes elements of aikido, jujitsu and exposure to BJJ. Most of the training I have is geared towards breaking/damaging the joints-not on compliance without imjury

Although I am sceptical of Aikido in LEO tactics, Jujitsu and BJJ have a lot to offer in terms of tactis proven recently in all out brawls. If you have game in these styles, it will not be a hard stretch to incorporate legally defensible police tactics. Great to see security professionals who take their job seriously enough to train.

Have a great and safe holiday and weekend.

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#110266 - 10/29/04 09:50 PM Re: Handcuffing Methods
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nekogami13 V2.0..

Handcuffing a fleeing suspect. Iím a former police officer. I have only been off the force for two years and I work as a bodyguard now for high government officials. If a suspect it trying to flee the scene the state law of Nevada states that if a suspect is running and you try to apprehend him, you a causing the threat of a major fight and or putting the public in harms way and up to someone being killed. I know I live in Nevada and your state law is most likely different but when handcuffing a person you must know the levels of force and how to imply them. Nevadaís levels are these:

1. Command Presence
2. Verbal Communication
3. Escorting a suspect
4. Physical control
5. O.C. / Pepper Spray
6. ASP / PR- 24 batons
7. Deadly force

I instruct handcuffing classes for some casino security personal for extra cash. But hey every state is different and well I hope you stay safe.

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#110267 - 11/02/04 09:20 PM Re: Handcuffing Methods
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Hi Everyone. I am George Vranos, the creator of the new Police Defensive Tactics video "Fast Action Control Techniques. We at http://www.factvideos.com believe we have one of the most realistic methods of handcuffing the highly combative. This video is one of the only videos I know that does not demonstrate theory. All 13 techniques in the video represent the F.A.C.T. system as used in the street everyday by police around the world. Check it out. Thanks ..George

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#110268 - 11/03/04 08:24 PM Re: Handcuffing Methods
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Interesting.

Is this a program to "supe" up wristlocks?

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#110269 - 11/04/04 09:51 PM Re: Handcuffing Methods
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not a cop, but a doorman (a bit like gaffer really), I had a couple of guys cuffed by myself, both didn't pay the clerk at the necklace shop I was working for then they told me, watch out, we're wrestlers. I told them, I know taekwondo, I snapped my fingers and the whole doorman squad came to my side and the guys ran away, we chased them and I cuffed one quickly while one of my cos (co-workers) was holding his fist ready so he can punch anytime when the thief attacks. the other one was chased and beaten up the rest of the squad and they received a slap from the shop owners

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#110270 - 05/16/05 02:38 PM Re: Handcuffing Methods [Re: nekogami13 V2.0]
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It depends on the arrest in a mismenor/domestic/non felony if he coroperate the subject facing the wall legs spread and 1st arm in the middlle of his back, then the next arm.

In a combat situation after you stun them a Aikido or Jujitsu or Judo takedown, wrist lock/armbar combination that gives you one arm to cuff initially and with knee, elbow/wrist leverage he wants to give you his other arm most of the times, sometimes you got drag it around.
Practicing team work arrest techniques also help.

In a fenoly arrest I aways like using the felony prone, back turned, on their knees, hands on top of their head, one hand cuff into a (if i wanted to dump them face down) knee in back & arm brought around into an armbar, otherwise cuff the other hand one at a time. Lighted with back up prone arms spreaded out and legs spreaded. Verbal command one hand until both hands are in the center of his back cuff. Their was a method taught were you could hit both wrist at the same time and vuff him. The cuffs were held in your fist links facing his wrist. It worked for once other times it never worked right, beat his wrist lots yelling.

Always lock the cuffs, he's your responcibility onced cuff. I've seen some rookie Security officers, clap up a suspect wrist by not locking the cuff so they don't tighten up. When they transferring custody.
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#110271 - 06/19/05 01:00 PM Re: Handcuffing Methods [Re: Neko456]
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Registered: 06/19/05
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I generally use the PPCT method of handcuffing if I'm thinking they are going to fight, or they have fought and I've got them on the ground.

If they are being cooperative and I don't think they are going to fight, I just have them put their hands behind their back and cuff them. I don't do this very often because it can be dangerous.

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#110272 - 08/29/05 02:55 PM Re: Handcuffing Methods [Re: leescott50]
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Registered: 08/29/05
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Remember that you are at a disadvantage when trying to take someone into custody. You cannot use all the tech. you have if you are following a force matrix. You must wait for them which gives them the upper hand. Better safe than sorry. ALWAYS immobilize them in some manner. It doesn't have to hurt them or be brutal, but make sure you are in contol. Don't let them see the cuffs. Many get nervous and you can provoke them by letting them see the cuffs. Always approach from their blind side if possible. If they are on thier knees, have them cross thier ankles and gently step on thier ankles while cuffing if you can. If they try to get up, step harder. And finally, try to keep the key hole up so you can unhook them or switch custody easily.

DON'T EVER PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE CHAIN. SOME EXPERIENCED HOODS CAN BREAK YOUR HANDS AND FINGERS.
Frank

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