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#110068 - 08/14/03 10:29 AM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
msmith Stranger Registered: 08/14/03 Posts: 2	[QUOTE]Originally posted by kawinning: I am looking to start a career as a police officer ... Stick w/ Muay Thai. It is far more important to be fit, conditioned to take abuse and able keep fighting than it is to be able to control a subject. You should never be going hands-on alone as an LEO unless there is no other option. Take martial arts for survival skills and your own personal enjoyment. Anything you use in the way of techniques outside of the training sanctioned by your department will open you up to liability. You will be undertrained in physical techniques as a LEO, that is just a fact. Keep rooted in one style, any one style. Become an expert. Then seek out training that fills the gaps. K.I.S.
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#110069 - 08/14/03 11:57 PM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
eL Duce Member Registered: 08/11/03 Posts: 108 Loc: Philippines	in my opinion, aikido would be better than ju jitsu. coz in ju jitsu, as what i've heard, requires more flexibility and agility compared to the former. aikido, simple.. but effective
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#110070 - 08/16/03 01:05 PM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
et Stranger Registered: 08/16/03 Posts: 4	I would suggest you look into Krav Maga. I've been a police officer for 13 years and have studied a number of systems. Krav Maga covers any scenario you might face as a cop, and in my case I can say it also provides great overall conditioning benefits as well. Check out Kravmaga.com and Kravmagakc.com for additional info.
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#110071 - 08/19/03 08:49 PM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
Remandman Member Registered: 08/18/03 Posts: 64 Loc: Canada	I work in a jail as a correctional officer. I study Kyokushin Karate. We also have a few police officers in our school. My Sensai is an ex-cop and Kyokushin is used for the Tokyo police force. Other good arts...Anything hands on, wrestling, boxing, Aikido, Jui-Jitsu, Judo, You name it, some knowledge in these will help you in a situation rather than no fighting experience.
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#110072 - 08/20/03 08:59 PM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
JKogas Prolific Registered: 01/25/03 Posts: 10813 Loc: North Carolina	One little problem, Japanese jiu-jitsu doesn't work on a resisting opponent because it isn't trained that way. For the same reason, aikido does not work. You want functional LEO tactics? Visit here http://www.isrmatrix.org/ Check out that site and forget about the other stuff (If you want something that actually WORKS when people resist!) -John [This message has been edited by JKogas (edited 08-20-2003).]
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#110073 - 08/20/03 09:02 PM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
JKogas Prolific Registered: 01/25/03 Posts: 10813 Loc: North Carolina	Check out the clips: http://www.isrmatrix.org/videos/isr-56k.wmv (dial up) http://www.isrmatrix.org/videos/isr-dsl.wmv (high speed)
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#110074 - 08/20/03 10:44 PM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
et Stranger Registered: 08/16/03 Posts: 4	The ISR Matrix system looks very interesting but I couldn't get the video clips to play. Which of their courses have you taken? I'm interested to know what it is about their system that separates it from others.
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#110075 - 08/21/03 11:51 AM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
immrtldragon Veteran Registered: 05/22/03 Posts: 1540 Loc: Just outside Philadelphia, PA	I have to agree with Kogas on the idea of someone actually resisting...again I'll suggest Judo...the conditioning is great and the people you train with are not only resisting opponents, they are skilled resisting opponents.
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#110076 - 08/21/03 03:14 PM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
Karate kid Enthusiast Registered: 07/07/03 Posts: 598	[QUOTE]Originally posted by JKogas: One little problem, Japanese jiu-jitsu doesn't work on a resisting opponent because it isn't trained that way. For the same reason, aikido does not work. You want functional LEO tactics? Visit here http://www.isrmatrix.org/ Check out that site and forget about the other stuff (If you want something that actually WORKS when people resist!) -John [This message has been edited by JKogas (edited 08-20-2003).][/QUOTE] YOUR FULL OF SHIT JKOGAS!!!!!!! AIKIDO "DOES!!!" WORK ON RESISTING OPPONENTS. I DUNNO ABOUT JUJITSU, I KNOW ITS NOTHIN BUT GROUND FIGHTING CAUSE I CHECKED IT OUT BEFORE, BUT IVE PROVEN THE FACT THAT IT EOORKS GREAT!!! ON RESISTING OPPONENTS!!! not to talk bad about a MA or anythin, cause all MA are great, but if judo works on resisting people, then AIKIDO SURE ENOGH THING!!!
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#110077 - 08/21/03 04:02 PM Re: MA best for Law Enforcement
judderman Veteran Registered: 08/06/01 Posts: 1400 Loc: UK	An interesting site John. I saw a few little "tricks" I shall definately be looking at closer. KarateKid, could you explain your statement more clearly please. What evidence do you have that Aikido works against resistant opponents? Are you basing your thoughts on the practicalities of Judo? Budo.
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