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#109925 - 04/26/03 05:43 PM russian spetsnaz
DieseLaFreak Offline
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Registered: 04/17/03
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the russian spetsnaz have a special type of fighting..its a very powerful type of street fighting but i dont know too much about them...can anyone tell me what they know?? and anything about their training

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#109926 - 04/27/03 02:15 AM Re: russian spetsnaz
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The 'Spets' have a few combative methods - depends on the area of Spets you are referring. The Special Operations Unit - they are trained in a method known as Systema. If you want more info about Systema, contact the site mentioned in my profile.

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#109927 - 01/19/05 03:43 PM Re: russian spetsnaz
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Spetsnaz fighting is a bit confusing, because there is no set move list, rank system, anything like that. It is literally based on extreme flexibility, reaction, instinctive movement, etc. It can be either very useful or very useless. It can also be a bit esoteric and mystical at times, depending on who you talk to. It is a good style to be exposed to, though, and can only help. Check out this website:
http://www.russianmartialart.com

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#109928 - 01/20/05 08:43 PM Re: russian spetsnaz
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Spetsnaz:
Soviet Elite special forces,often used as body guards,and enforcers.

RMA( Russian Martial Arts) a tribal system of fighting used by slavic warriors.

1917: The gov't decides to research martial history; Russians & other in gathering a massive profile of techniques. From 25 different art forms they formed a tiered system.
(CQC) only thaught to special forces & secret police.
(CCT) General Soviet army units.

(sambo) was the name used: Samozashchitya Bez Oruzhiya meaning self protection without use of weapons.
Two categories exist: Sport Sambo & combat Sambo.

Yet their also exist a third style of Sambo called Combat Sambo Spetsnaz. This style has been hiddenin secrecy. Many of the origninal RMA exists in this system. Used by the Spetsnaz,MVD special units,VDV Paras OMON units,Russian Marine & other specialists. These people simply call this MA: The Systema
Kobun Out

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#109929 - 06/18/05 09:06 PM Re: russian spetsnaz [Re: loki]
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ADDING: Vladimir Vasiliev - Toronto Canada is having a SUMMER TRAINING CAMP. It sounds interesting. Visit www.RussianMartialarts.com for more information.

Kobun

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#109930 - 07/18/05 03:03 PM Re: russian spetsnaz [Re: loki]
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Registered: 04/13/05
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Loc: Canada
You wouldnt think it but Russians have alot of martial arts history.Must have picked it up over the centuries from bordering with asia. I think even Vladimir Putin is a master of Judo...but he's also ex KGB

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#109931 - 07/18/05 07:10 PM Re: russian spetsnaz [Re: DieseLaFreak]
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I think for police and military combatives, you can find more appropriate, effective programs, without the hocus pocus and without having to go to the top of the food chain to see it done "right".

Just my opinion.
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#109932 - 07/19/05 10:18 AM Re: russian spetsnaz [Re: Fletch1]
SkInHoUnD Offline
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Its just more practical...I dont think theres a deep traditional philosophy to whacking a magnum out of some punks hand.

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#109933 - 07/19/05 04:17 PM Re: russian spetsnaz [Re: SkInHoUnD]
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What is more practical?
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#109934 - 07/19/05 05:07 PM Re: russian spetsnaz [Re: DieseLaFreak]
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Systema is a compolation of various martial arts. It is based on filtering dwn the most effective styles and moves that the Russians have encountered throughout history, from battles with the Turks and Parissians and the mongol empire and so on. It was "perfected" during WW2 by Stalin's Falcons (personal body gaurds). It's teaching methods focus on quick comprehension and easy learning. Integrates H2H, striking and grappling, with dissarms, confined space, combat and submissions. There are no "proper" stances no katas, no learning to count in Japanese or anything like that. Just fighting and killing.
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