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#109030 - 02/22/05 06:08 PM Re: paralizing pp's
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Masterful:

I have a background in Japanese, Okinawan, Chinese, Korean and Filipino martial arts over the last quater of a century or so. My primary area of interest or study is in the version of Ryukyu Kempo in which I have a Renshi teaching license.

The last decade or so, my studies have taken a major turn into the use and function of vital points. I have spent a large amount of money building a large reference library that contains texts on Chinese medicine as well as numerous complimentary subjects in Western medicine. I seek out professionals in the fields to learn from...some even serving as mentors. I tend to take a disbelieving attitude toward anything told to me (by whomever says it) and research it to the point where I can either prove it or disprove it myself.

Hope that helps and sorry that it is such a short response. I am working in Fl right now and am really beat. I can follow up on anything you'd like after my return home tomorrow.

Michael

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#109031 - 02/22/05 09:51 PM Re: paralizing pp's
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Do I really need to spell out why poking (and yes, that is what nukite is, because noone's extended forefinger can stand up to truly hard striking) is impractical?

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#109032 - 02/22/05 11:38 PM Re: paralizing pp's
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That's funny, I've done karate for 11.5 years and I thought it was a one knuckle strike [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif[/IMG]

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#109033 - 02/23/05 12:35 AM Re: paralizing pp's
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Me too? But I'm sloooowww.....:0

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#109034 - 02/23/05 12:46 AM Re: paralizing pp's
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Give the kid a break, I think Hedgehogey is right.

Ippon nukite is a 1 finger strike (or a "poke" if you like). Nihon nukite, obviously 2-finger strike. You guys are thinking ippon ken which is one knuckle extended.

c/f http://gojuryu.net/strikes.htm
"Nukite is the sharp strike of the fingers extended into the soft body parts of your opponent"... sounds like a poke to me.

In jujitsu, we do a double shihon (yonhon) nukite strike to H1 from a front double handed choke. In training practice, it actually is more of a poke than a strike... of course [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

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#109035 - 02/23/05 01:00 AM Re: paralizing pp's
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Hey man, I just call it what it is. I'm not into using foreign lingo because I'm slow...and lazy... [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG] All these big funny spelled words just confuse the masses. I don't want to impress anyone with my knowledge,cause I couldn't,but I know what works for me. English.
All American Goju Karate

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#109036 - 02/23/05 01:17 AM Re: paralizing pp's
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Oops, my bad, shihon nukite = 4 finger/spear hand)... Yes, I agree Sanchin31, english would be preferable, but having to search for the translations is good in a way, coz I get to find new things along the way.... I like to call it "serendipidous information gathering"...coz I'm just plain lazy to do research....my excuse is I'm er.."busy".. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

And just as long as you, my friend, don't end up FAT and lazy, that's OK. Slow and lazy is OK, FAT, slow AND lazy is bad.... [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

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#109037 - 02/23/05 01:45 AM Re: paralizing pp's
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hedgehogey:
Do I really need to spell out why poking (and yes, that is what nukite is, because noone's extended forefinger can stand up to truly hard striking) is impractical?[/QUOTE]

1) conditioning. The fingers can take quite alot when properly toughened, and thoug Im no expert I would imagine that with the smaller striking area magnifying the impact pressure would not a lower amount of thrust be required??

Also, Meijin + Budoc, you recomended striking, could similar effects occur from sustained pressure, i.e. pressing into the specified area??

2) Ipon Nukite was only one method suggested, personally Im too lazy to condition my fingers, so I would use the Nakadakaken, Meijin's first choice if I remember right. This is a middle finger single knuckle strike.

3) If your worried about how to expose the armpit, practice, its not that hard.

4) Im a PP sceptic as well, but when a qualified doctor tells me something can kill me, I tend to listen. That seems the inteligent thing to do...

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#109038 - 02/23/05 02:22 AM Re: paralizing pp's
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) Im a PP sceptic as well, but when a qualified doctor tells me something can kill me, I tend to listen. That seems the inteligent thing to do...

[IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG] That's better than prove it!

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#109039 - 02/23/05 03:52 AM Re: paralizing pp's
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If my memory serves me correctly, "multiversed" is a med student. He beleives in PP's.

My old doctor was a recognised accupuncturist. He was a very good doctor with some very high and varied degrees in western medicine.

So then it is down to be applicable. Simply, it is another tool, like all fighting weapons, has appropriate times and paticular methods which are more effective in some situations, and some easy and effective applications in one on one sparring (mutual combat).

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