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#108424 - 03/14/04 08:40 AM Are the 5 elements real?
dirdmister Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
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I know the 5 elements are : fire, earth, metal, water and wood;
but does this actually mean?
How do you do a fire attack etc?
what makes the attacks different?
where on the body do you use these attacks?
what affects can they have?
what are the most dangerous?

Can somebody please answer my questions

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#108425 - 03/14/04 01:15 PM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dirdmister:
I know the 5 elements are : fire, earth, metal, water and wood;
but does this actually mean?

>They are phases of power accorcing to TCM, not elemnets as we now them.

How do you do a fire attack etc?
>Strike or grab anlong a meidran the is of the fire element, striking the top of the bicpep which is LUNG 3, this would be a FIRE attack

what makes the attacks different?
>nothing it is just a way to plan a combination of strikes/grabs

where on the body do you use these attacks?
>Depends on attack and desired response.

what affects can they have?
>Following the theory, increased pain.

what are the most dangerous?
>Take a class

Can somebody please answer my questions
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#108426 - 03/15/04 11:55 AM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
dirdmister Offline
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Thank for replying. Take a class in what(bear in mind i live in the UK) ?

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#108427 - 03/15/04 02:52 PM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
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Wher in the UK? I can recommend some high level people over there.

Scott

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#108428 - 03/16/04 11:36 AM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
dirdmister Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
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I live in a small town called Wednesbury near Walsall. Do you know where that is?

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#108429 - 04/07/04 07:36 AM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
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I don't know the exact details as yet, but I believe that 'KYUSHO INTERNATIONAL' is in the process of opening up in the UK. For more information as to who and where email evan@kyusho.com or check the KI website. www.kyusho.com

--Dave

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#108430 - 04/07/04 08:01 AM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave Cobb:
I don't know the exact details as yet, but I believe that 'KYUSHO INTERNATIONAL' is in the process of opening up in the UK. For more information as to who and where email evan@kyusho.com or check the KI website. www.kyusho.com

--Dave
[/QUOTE]

Yet more people jumping on the bandwagon.

I checked the Kyusho International site, great video.

They showed a guy being knocked out who had to be caught by two people. Unfortunately while the guy is meant to be half out cold, he manages to pull one of his legs under him with no help, showing perfect control and co-ordination of his limb.

And another one bites the dust [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

JohnL

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#108431 - 04/07/04 08:35 AM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 4370
Loc: Woodbury NJ
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnL:
Yet more people jumping on the bandwagon.

I checked the Kyusho International site, great video.

They showed a guy being knocked out who had to be caught by two people. Unfortunately while the guy is meant to be half out cold, he manages to pull one of his legs under him with no help, showing perfect control and co-ordination of his limb.

And another one bites the dust [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

JohnL
[/QUOTE]

Hmmm...Sounds like a George Dillman seminar? I saw a few of his KO techniques from a video someone gave me and it look kind of phony?

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#108432 - 04/07/04 09:39 AM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
kempocos Offline
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Kyusho International are from the Dillman side of Kyusho. I know Mark Kline who was a 7th dan and one of Dillmans top men left DKI to align himself with KYUSHO INTERNATIONAL just a few months ago.

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#108433 - 04/08/04 06:43 PM Re: Are the 5 elements real?
alan shindsharonjr Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 54
Loc: beachwood.ohio USA
The 5 elements ,the meridians, pressure points,ying ,yang ect are the foundations that martial arts going back to Chinese Boxing or early yang Family Taijiquan . it is also the basics of Okinawan Karate through the BUBISHI. English translated version by Partrick McCarthy.

There is no need to explain this as there are many well researched books and articles on the market under Dim Mak , pressure points ect. However you must except this as the foundation of Karate or you will never reach a high level of expertise.


I would like to comment on the people who do not understand a pressure point knock out.
Master Dillman has always said that it does not have to be a complete faint.
A stong stager that renders your opponent helpless and unable to fight back for a few seconds is all the results you need from that strike.
After all in a real fight you will be able to kill a opponent if he is unable to respond for a few seconds.

I would suggest you allow yourself to be struck at a Dillman seminar if you have any doubts as to the effects.

Again its not trying to win a discussion of style but rather to have you understand that this subject is fundamental to Classic Martial Arts

Thanks
Alan

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