I was wondering if anyone could tell me of any styles of gung fu with a good repetoire of dim mak. Im not asking for particular schools, just a style. I know that southern praying mantis has a lot of dim mak techniques but it is a very hard style to find an instuctor in. Any other styles out there? Thanks in advance.

Any reasonable Kung Fu or Karate school will contain a "vital points" system. Those that have it inherent in their systems will use the old names in Japanese or Chinese and not the TCM points. Dim Mak only refers to "press meridian" and is not the only system, (it could be just massage).

Good day
Don’t confuse vital points and pressure points
A pressure point is a place on the body where a signal or message can be entered directly into the nervous system. A vital point is for example the eyes or throat.

Bossman, "Dim Mak only refers to "press meridian" and is not the only system, (it could be just massage)" .I though Dim Mak meant "death touch", if thats the case thats one killer massage, pardon the pun.

dim mak is a system in and off its self. It includes pressing rubbing striking tearing meridians/points. For more information you might want to look into a sub art called chin na (qinna) it is shoalin grappling and has many dim make applications to it

dim mak- is also not just death touch but delayed death touch it is accomplished by striking certian nerve bundles/meridians which cut of the flow of chi

Well... excuse my forgetfullness but.... Dim Mak means press meridian, then there are other terms for "press Blood" (Dim Tsu) and press tendons and yet another term (can't remember the Cantonese) for Death Touch. My memory fails me and I appreciate that many people use the term Dim Mak for death touch but it's not the one used in HK Kung Fu circles..... Maybe I should've written them down at the time...

In the old days when studying Kung Fu, secret techniques would be passed down to students who were deemed worthy of learning so they would learn Dim Mak but in many Kung Fu styles if you could hurt maim or kill, you should be able to heal as well so thats what they were taught. So a lot of practitioners used to study medicine and use pressure points for healing as well!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shaolinboy:
In the old days when studying Kung Fu, secret techniques would be passed down to students who were deemed worthy of learning so they would learn Dim Mak but in many Kung Fu styles if you could hurt maim or kill, you should be able to heal as well so thats what they were taught. So a lot of practitioners used to study medicine and use pressure points for healing as well![/QUOTE]

It is unfortunate that most Kyusho circles, have lost the healing aspect of the arts. If you only practise the combat/ destruction side of the arts how then can you find the balance that was originally supplied by the healing aspects especially when talking about pressure points?

--Dave

Hi Kevin:
To the best of my knowledge, Tai-Chi incorporates Din Mak or Dim-Mak techniques. Some consider Dim-Mak a discipline or study in and of itself. Mr. Earle Montaigue has written and published many books on the subject.
You may also want to look into accupuncture, massage and healing arts that manipulate meridians and the flow of "chi" because these are related.
The Japanese art of Kyusho-jitsu, of which George Dillman, of Pennsylvannia, is an authority in the U.S., is also a study in pressure point striking and manipulation.
I hope that helps. Good luck in your search!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kevin:
I was wondering if anyone could tell me of any styles of gung fu with a good repetoire of dim mak. Im not asking for particular schools, just a style. I know that southern praying mantis has a lot of dim mak techniques but it is a very hard style to find an instuctor in. Any other styles out there? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

you can go to www.ryushu.com for a listing of Taika Oyatas RYTU TE schools. He is IMHO the best person in the US to get this inofrmation. There is also instructors listed at WWW.DRAGONSOCIETY.COM for Tom Muncy/Rick Moneymakers side of these teachings.
Between these two and Dillamns associates you should be able to locate a good instructor. I feel if you can find a OYATA school that is the place to go. Taika introduced DILLMAN/MONEYMAKER/MUNCY to KYUSHO ( striking points) and TUITE( joint manipulation).

[This message has been edited by kempocos (edited 07-01-2004).]