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#108276 - 05/19/04 06:29 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
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let me tell you it does work I've felt the sounds that go through the body as a hold has been aplied to me it does increase the pain alot , it does take pratice but not years it all depends on the person , anyone you sings or knows how to use there voice can be very dangerous, as to the NO TOUCH you will not belive it unless you experince it yourself weather its done to yoy or if you see it , ITS TRUE it does work . One of my teachers showed us after a class one time how CHI works and did a NO TOUCH to another teacher , when teacher #2 felt it and hit the ground he looked back at us and asked who hit him with a bat eveyone shook there heads noone was even near him at the time when he charged the teacher after he couldn't even walk his leg was deep purple and shades of bule he was on cruches for 2 weeks .... the thing with the NO TOUCH is that the atacker has to have content or its not as afective cuse if he knows whats coming he can defend it in his mind and interrupt the other persons CHI...............

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#108277 - 05/30/05 06:47 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body [Re: firesnake]
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Huung Gar uses sounds in their Iron Wire form (as well as the others) to enhance chi gong practice, according to 5 elements and internal alignments.
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#108278 - 06/01/05 09:59 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
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What is this anonymous posting junk???
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#108279 - 06/02/05 02:44 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body [Re: Sanchin]
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What is this anonymous posting junk???




It's a glitch from the new forums.There are also some posts missing between old threads.
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#108280 - 06/09/05 01:40 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body [Re: BaguaMonk]
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A comment on Hung Gar 'Iron Thread'.

From what I understand this is a very advanced Hung Gar form. So after years of work on the basics and many layers of forms, Iron Thread is trained, using specific sounds to vibrate various internal organs.

If one does so and gets results, it's of course difficult to say if its the Iron Thread, or the result of long training reaching conclusion.

Jackie Chan used the Iron Thread with his twist in the Laughing Heyena's movie. It had dramatic cinema effect.

If this interests you 1) find a Hung Gar sifu and 2)train your tale off for several decades.

Then report back on the results.
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#108281 - 09/05/05 04:28 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body [Re: Victor Smith]
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Man, JohnL should just go back to his planet and leave others alone...

I'm not gonna debate this issue, but I have been studying this stuff for a while, and i'll just give a couple examples or trials you can test, and post what your results were. Just for grins!

1. Have a partner apply a finger lock to you. 4 finger works well for this and with practice you can use 1 finger. When partner is applying the lock, you (being the locked one) either think or say SHO (long "o" sound) and see if you can easily resist the lock. ("O" is the sound for out in front of your body)

Post your experience and lets see how many can get this to work or not work. (JohnL: I really don't care to hear from you)
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#108282 - 09/05/05 08:23 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body [Re: malanr116]
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sorry, it didn't work. my wife just looked at me like I was an idiot.

I have no doubt sound can affect the body. Research supports it and I have felt the results of it from a science project in high school (many moons ago). But I am very skeptical of a human producing the sounds necessary.
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#108283 - 09/05/05 09:06 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body [Re: malanr116]
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Ok, there may be sounds that affect the human body. The problem is that these sound techniques are not reliable in any kind of combat situation. If the opponent resists (as demonstrated many times), the techniques fail almost 100% of the time.

Which means for all intents and purposes, the techniques are useless for martial arts training. So I am going to have to agree with JohnL.
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#108284 - 09/06/05 09:57 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body [Re: MattJ]
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Thanks for replying.

I did forget to say that i wanted to have a debate and not an argument.

And at least this hasn't turned into a Flaming argument.

The example was a defeat against the lock, (i may not have explained myself completely.)

The sound "O" or "oh" is the sound related to sending energy out away from the body, to the front of your body.
In training, we use this sound to defeat the lock, then the person doing the lock will do a breathing technique that defeats the "lock defeat".

One interesting item, we have found that some people are non-responders to pressurepoints, (my wife too) and that may be involved in the sounds not working too. But some people just don't get affected by these techniques.

I do agree that using sound only for defense is impractical, the sounds only help to amplify the physical techniques being performed.

What other ideas do you guys have on this? Or should i ask instead, do you have any helper techniques that you have found to better a technique?

Lets make this a discussion instead of a "i don't believe it and if you do you are a total idiot, or this is total bs"

I like to have civil conversations, and relize that some people just comment for the sake of commenting, you know who i'm talking about.

Peace
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