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#108266 - 02/26/04 10:40 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
firesnake Offline
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Registered: 02/25/04
Posts: 7
I am a student of Mr. Rooks and can testify to the effects of sound work. It is difficult to do and is extremely dependant on timing, but it does work very well in regards to strengthening the effects of a technique.

The reason sound works as Mr.Rooks explains it, is not due to the frequency so much as when the sound is made internal muscle groups collectively contract which helps push that much more energy into a technique. For example if one makes the middle warmer sound HA correctly, by dropping the tongue from the center of the roof of the mouth, the muscles of the upper chest are contract. This is why it is so necessary to coordinate the sound with the exact moment a technique is applied. To soon or too late, the benefit is lost.

While I am a student of Mr. Rooks, I do not speak for him. I offer this only to help understanding of how sound works in one respect and to state that I have seen and felt its effects many times. I have also used sound on other martial artists outside of kyusho who can atest to its power.

Thank you for your time.

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#108267 - 02/27/04 05:56 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
kempocos Offline
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Registered: 05/23/02
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Firesnake,

Your explaination makes alot of sense. I work with body alignment, stance, breath, intent etc. these rules need to be followed to make KYUSHO/TUITE work. The concept of muscle groups clears alot up in my mind anyway, can you recommend any books on this subject. Perhaps a website with articiles or contact information for a seminar in the US.

Thanks

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#108268 - 02/27/04 07:21 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
JohnL Offline
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Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 4309
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So far, total garbage.

I on the other hand can enlighten you.

When attacked I generally sh*t my pants. This comes with the sound normally associated with this function. I have found that at this time, the attackers tend to collapse laughing, allowing my waddling escape.

Good luck

JohnL

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#108269 - 02/27/04 07:23 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
JKogas Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 10818
Loc: North Carolina
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnL:


Does anyone actually believe this garbage?

JohnL
[/QUOTE]


Absolutely not. Hogwash.


"Sounds" KOing someone. NOW you know how many traditional arts get such a bad name.


-John

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#108270 - 02/27/04 11:10 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
goldencrane Offline
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Registered: 02/23/04
Posts: 432
Loc: Kansas City Kansas USA
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnL:
So far, total garbage.

I on the other hand can enlighten you.

When attacked I generally sh*t my pants. This comes with the sound normally associated with this function. I have found that at this time, the attackers tend to collapse laughing, allowing my waddling escape.

Good luck

JohnL
[/QUOTE]

Priceless John.......Priceless

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#108271 - 02/27/04 02:50 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
firesnake Offline
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Registered: 02/25/04
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In regards to videos and seminars regarding sound.

You can find videos regarding kiajistu and contact information for Mr.Rooks at rookskarate.com

I do not attempt to convert or convince anyone that sound makes tuite, strikes, and knockouts more powerful. I am simply stating what I understand personally and what I have seen with my own eyes. What you choose to believe is a personal choice.

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#108272 - 02/27/04 10:09 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
Hogtooth Offline
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Registered: 07/13/03
Posts: 78
Loc: USA
I have noticed that sound, chi and no touch knockouts seem to work well only on students of this philosophy. Coincidence? Probably not.
Second, It would seem that even if it DID work, it would require years of specialized practice. I feel this time would be better spent developing strong fundamentals and an effective delivery system.

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#108273 - 02/27/04 10:19 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
kempocos Offline
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Registered: 05/23/02
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If you coan read you would see that it is emitting sounds when performin g a lock or a hold to enchance it. It is not about notouch or yelling at them. just like body postion and exhaling.

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#108274 - 05/05/04 12:22 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
BigDweightLftr Offline
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To all non-believers, shot puters and discus throwers have used sound techniques to add distance to thier throws. Strength athletes have also known the benefits of adding sound techniques to move formiddable amounts of weight and more recently Tennis players are beginning to apply sound techniques to thier matches. If you non-believers think about it for a minute, it makes sense, these athletes are'nt making noise just to here themselves...I would be interested in learning more about the sound studies when they come out.

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#108275 - 05/05/04 07:21 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 4370
Loc: Woodbury NJ
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BigDweightLftr:
To all non-believers, shot puters and discus throwers have used sound techniques to add distance to thier throws. Strength athletes have also known the benefits of adding sound techniques to move formiddable amounts of weight and more recently Tennis players are beginning to apply sound techniques to thier matches. If you non-believers think about it for a minute, it makes sense, these athletes are'nt making noise just to here themselves...I would be interested in learning more about the sound studies when they come out.[/QUOTE]

What your saying is nothing new, it Basic MA "Kia" What ever the sport, there all gathering and focusing thier energy for "That Moment."

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