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#108256 - 09/17/03 09:07 AM Sounds effecting the body
malanr Offline

Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 66
I don't know if this is the place to post this but we will soon find out.

I study taekwon do and Kyusho Jitsu. Once the topic of sounds that effect the body and responses came up.

There is a Master by the name of Song Pak. Is there anyone else that has heard of or studied with the said person?

Also, more info. He claims that certain sounds move more internal power and cause the opponent to falter. IE "sa" can deflect or cause an attacker to not be able to hit you in the head.

I'll do some more research too, but if you know what I am talking about please chime in.

PS. If you don't know anything about this don't just say it isn't true or don't work.

#108257 - 09/17/03 09:25 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
York Karate Offline

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 132
Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Good day

I know Song very well; I have trained with him several times over the past several years
Song knows what he is talking about and can demonstrate very effectively
You might also look up Garry Rooks he does sound work as well and has some good videos I train with Gary on a regular basis as well.

My base art is GoJu and I also study and teach Kyusho-Jitsu. We incorporate sound (Kia-Jitsu) into our Kyuhso training and it very clearly works. I have demonstrated this over and over.

Take the time to learn Kia-Jitsu and it will greatly enhance your pressure point work You have an excellent source in Mast Pak

#108258 - 09/17/03 01:03 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
JohnL Offline
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Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 4309
Loc: NY, NY, USA

Took the trouble to look at the link.

Interesting set of photo's. Gary appears to take a step forward and claims that by emiting a sound he KO's his opponent.
(Apparently he released a fire sound)

Does anyone actually believe this garbage?


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#108259 - 09/17/03 01:19 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
York Karate Offline

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 132
Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
John your open mindedness never ceases to amaze me

#108260 - 09/17/03 01:46 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
Kempoman Offline

Registered: 11/15/00
Posts: 1484
Loc: Houston, TX
Acutally John using sound to effect the human body is a well proven science. Infrasound (very low frequency sound), being one of the most dangerous.

Check out my post here
and the link provided. I'll also post some info on a study done with qigong masters and their ability to emit sound around the 6.5-12Hz levels.

#108261 - 09/17/03 01:57 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
York Karate Offline

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 132
Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

We have carried out a study at the university using WSM showing that Qi can be emitted from the human body. This has been submitted for publication and once it has been I will provide a link to the paper.

We work with sound on a regular basis both Song Pak and Gary Rooks are part of DKI and teach and demonstrate sound on a regular basis, as do most of the senior instructors, including of course Dillman Sensei whom without most of this information would simply not be available to the general martial arts community. We have been discussing curtailing these activities and only doing more basic Kyusho in the publics workshops simply because of the closed-minded attitudes and responses this more esoteric knowledge solicits.

People who stay open-minded and study know this is real and want to make the effort to add it to their knowledge base.

Best wishes

#108262 - 02/26/04 02:52 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body

In Yoga sounds are known to stimulate the internal organs...what organ gets stimulated depends on what sound you make.

#108263 - 02/26/04 08:28 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
dazzler2 Offline

Registered: 12/11/03
Posts: 148
Loc: england
Does sound affect the human body?

I went to a MMA evening paying about 10 pounds to sit and watch some quality fighters working out.

With MMA in its infancy a lot of the fighters are amateurs and bring a lot of supporters with them.

MMA being what it is ...there were a lot of hard looking people in the crowd of a 1000 or so ...I'd say a lot of these guys wouldn't have needed much encouragement to join in the events.

Anyway - there we are - 4 of us sitting about 5 rows up in the audience, waiting in anticipation for the fights to start - Its sunday night and we are all having a relaxing pint and people watching...never seen so many tattoos in one place.

The lights dimmed...

All was in hush....

Even the row of meaty skinheads sitting in front of us confidently boasting of how their fighter was a champion kickboxer and untouchable quietened...

BOOOM!! An enormous firecracker was set off to signal the start of the evenings fun.

Scared out of his skin my mate sitting next to me leaped in the air like a startled cat...His pint even more startled leaped out of his glass...

All over the cackling crew in front....!!!

Fortunately they took it in good spirit, could have been the mutual cameraderie, could have been the fact that we are also follically challenged...

All I'll say is that sound caused my colleague to his pants!



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#108264 - 02/26/04 09:54 AM Re: Sounds effecting the body
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 4370
Loc: Woodbury NJ
I don't think much of this sound thing you mentioned but if it helps you fight better well, use it. A loud Ki-op is just fine, I never liked those guys who came at me with that stupid snake hissing sound either.I'm cranky today since my wife would rather go out to dinner tonight rather than letting me train. [IMG][/IMG] Bonzai

#108265 - 02/26/04 01:51 PM Re: Sounds effecting the body
kempocos Offline

Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 516
Loc: flemington,nj,usa
I have been training Kyusho for years , just not down Dillamns line. I trained under OYATAS line and now under DRAGON SOCIETY and thier teachings. I have had folks try this on me and I have not felt any effects. I will say that it may be the technique and not the theory that is failing. I would be very interested in the studies mentioned if they were published.

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